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Hi r/Jobs! I wanted to share my timeline and interview stats. I found these kinds of posts to be interesting during my search, so I hope this helps someone! **Total job applications**: 132 **Total responses**: 40 **Never heard back**: 92 **Told me no right away**: 13 **Turned out to be a scam**: 6 **First interviews**: 11 **2+ interviews**: 5 **They offered me the job, but I declined**: 5 **They said no at end of interview process**: 4 **Left me hanging after two rounds**: 1 **Accepted**: 1 My background is in administration, teaching, and management, primarily in arts and entertainment. I applied heavily from late July 2020 to September 2020. At that point, I stopped actively applying because my old job called me back. Two jobs reached out to me in October, and I ended up taking one of them. --- **Resume** - I basically used [this template](https://old.reddit.com/r/jobs/comments/7y8k6p/im_an_exrecruiter_for_some_of_the_top_companies/), except I put education at the top. I had 8 slightly differing versions of my resume for the different kinds of jobs I was applying for. **Cover Letter** - I wish I could find the original author of the template I started with, but this ended up being my basic cover letter: *Dear Hiring Manager,* *I'm enthusiastically writing regarding the [POSITION] at [PLACE], which I discovered on [WEBSITE]. I have over [NUMBER] years of related experience and am excited to bring my creativity and energy to [PLACE].* *The job description mentioned that you were looking for [QUALITY, QUALITY, and QUALITY].* *As you can see from my resume, I’ve [DESCRIPTION OF JOB DUTIES THAT SHOWS I CAN DO QUALITY, QUALITY, and QUALITY]. I [DUTY, DUTY, ACCOMPLISHMENT].* *This multifaceted role has made me a [QUALITY, QUALITY], capable of [TASK].* *I’m confident that I have the skills and ability to be an asset to [PLACE]. Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to hearing from you.* *Sincerely,* *[YOUR NAME]* **Interview** - I obsessively honed my pitch and practiced with [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNSMPrvEWxo). **Websites** - I was looking primarily on Indeed and [NYFA](https://www.nyfa.org/jobs/), but sometimes Craigslist and LinkedIn, too. --- **Closing Thoughts** * *Personalize, personalize, personalize* - I really started getting somewhere when I started personalizing my resume for each job. Eventually, I had 8 slightly different versions of my resume ready to go, which I would personalize even more for each job. * *Including interests on your resume* - Yes, I started including interests on most of my resumes, and I started getting more interest. I kept it very brief and specific. My resume for the job I ultimately accepted, however, did not have any interests on it. As we all know, this is an incredibly tedious process. I certainly felt depressed and worthless at times. I just kept telling myself: this is a numbers game, and I just have to stay in the game to win. I saw every application as increasing my chances of winning the numbers game, even if only slightly. Additionally, I was very inspired by the folks on here who racked up 300 applications in the same time I had done 130. To everyone still applying: you got this! --- **EDIT 11/18/2020 11:00 AM EST - Thank you all for your kind well-wishes! I thought I'd compile my answers to the most frequently asked questions here:** **Are you entry level? How many jobs did you apply to per day and per week, on average?** - *tltr4560 (Thank you!)* Not entry level. I’m 28 with 4 years of experience in management. I applied to 5-7 jobs a day max, but sometimes I only managed to do 1 job a day. I was very slow because I was researching the companies, personalizing my resume and cover letter a lot, etc. **What kind of position did you end up in?** *- RogueMimzy (Thank you!)* I took an administrative position at a well-known organization, but not directly in my field. **What did you do to improve your interview skills?** *- kbflower (Thank you!)* The best interview advice I got was: peg your answers to your accomplishments, i.e., figure out what the most impressive things are about you and connect every interview answer to one or more of those. I really worked on this because I'm naturally not someone who brags about themselves. So, for example, if someone says, "Tell me about yourself," old me would have said, "I'm [NAME], I'm from Colorado and I teach painting." New me had a spiel: "I'm an artist, teacher, and manager. I started my interest in [FIELD] at [SCHOOL]. In my current position, I'm the manager at [PLACE], where I directly supervise 10 people. The studio makes an average revenue of $800,000 a year, and I've brought that up from $500,000 in 2017. I oversee all hiring, onboarding, and operational initiatives, while also teaching painting at [PLACE] to groups of up to 50 adults at a time." etc. Obviously those details are a little fudged but you get the idea. I practiced with my friends and with [the video I linked](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNSMPrvEWxo) until it was second nature. You don't want to memorize word for word, of course, but you want to know what points you're going to bring up every time. **Do you have any suggestions for the final rounds of interviews?** - *sassylilmidge (Thank you!)* I really can't call myself an expert on final rounds since I've only done it 5 times. These are my general thoughts, though: * **Anticipating common interview questions** - At the lower levels (where I am), there are only so many interview questions that get asked (even in the second and third rounds). I found [this free Balance Careers website](https://www.thebalancecareers.com/job-interview-questions-and-answers-2061204) very helpful for all of that. They have lists of common interview questions and suggestions for how to answer. I came up with my answers for pretty much all common interview questions and practiced them obsessively. * **Peg your answers to your accomplishments** - I wrote a little about that above. Basically, figure out what the most impressive things are about you and connect every interview answer to one or more of those. So if someone asked the classic, "How do you handle stress and pressure?" I had a semi-memorized answer ready to go that connected back to a striking, memorable accomplishment. E.g.: "In my current position, I run a lot of high-pressure, high-stress events. I remember one time, I was overseeing an event for the entire cast of the Lion King on Broadway and everything needed to be perfect. It turns out they needed a red carpet and a photo backdrop, but it seems like there was a miscommunication and the information didn't make it to us. So, my coworker and I sprang into action... [DETAILS] and, in the end, the night went off perfectly. No one even noticed a thing. I deal with challenging situations by leaping into action and doing everything I can in the here and now." I would be brief, but make the example as funny and vivid as possible. * **Get your most successful friend to critique your interviewing skills** (multiple times if possible) - This was painful, but helpful. I picked the most successful person I know and asked them to do several mock interviews with me. Most people will be flattered to be asked. **1) You want to practice until it's automatic.** In the first practice round, I would fall apart during basic questions out of nervousness (and because the situation was so weird). By the later rounds, I had a smooth, but natural (I hope) patter down. **2) Their feedback will be really important.** They might tell you you need to brag more, or say that one of your anecdotes is particularly interesting and you need to find a way to work it in earlier. **3) If possible, get them to practice with you the night/morning before interviews so you're not walking in completely cold.** Eventually I stopped relying on this, but I found it helpful for my first few 2+ round interviews. **Did you include personal hobby type interests or professional goals/interests?** - *Packynin (Thank you!)* Personal interests only. My exact line (when I included it) was: "**Interests** – Camping, hiking, bicycling, drawing, mycology." As a side note - I'm Asian, and we are sometimes stereotyped as being all the same, boring robot drones, etc. I felt like adding the interests might have humanized me to hiring managers. I didn't put any professional goals. I used to do some hiring and never found those sections that interesting. But it's probably different for other industries. **Would the template apply to a college student with no work or internship experience? All feedback I've gotten so far is that my experience is not relevant. Do my extracurriculars and projects hold any merit for anyone...?** *- beetles_juiced (Thank you!)* I'd need more details to give you good advice, but there's usually a way to spin your accomplishments in the best possible light. I interviewed for a lot of positions where I had no direct experience in that specific field. I usually read the job description, isolated the tasks that were most similar to things I had done, and then rewrote a few bullet points in my resume to directly address those tasks. So for example, if I saw a job description like this: *REQUIREMENTS: • Experience with social media, notably Instagram (all aspects: writing posts, promotion, documenting engagement with followers) • Proficiency in Microsoft Office and web research; and with Adobe Creative Suite is a plus. • Strong organizational, verbal, writing and problem-solving skills. • BA degree in Fine Art, Art History, or experience in a related field.* I would think to myself, okay: I don't have experience with Instagram, and web research isn't a huge part of my job. But I could spin my resume in the best possible light with something truthful and relevant, like this: * *Created original content for company social media accounts.* * *Researched market trends to support and develop new operational initiatives. Assisted senior management with status follow-ups and progress reports.* Maybe not the best example, but you get the idea. **Are you the white lady with curly hair in the image header?** No, that is a still from [the video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNSMPrvEWxo) I linked! I used that video to practice interviewing.


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    trickyGoffer

    You have really good interview rates

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      itsmemariotime

      Right? I had like at least 20 first interviews that flat out said no after the first interview. I understand that my type of job has a lot of unemployed workers, but damn. Also this - >At that point, I stopped actively applying because my old job called me back. Two jobs reached out to me in October, and I ended up taking one of them. Not everyone gets that.

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    areraswen

    I've had good luck with the sheets & giggles template as well; the company I received my most recent offer from complimented the format which I think speaks volumes to how well it works.

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      jeremyosborne81

      [Eucalyptus sheets?](https://sheetsgiggles.com/)

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    beetles_juiced

    Would the template apply to a college student with no work or internship experience? All feedback I've gotten so far is that my experience is not relevant. Do my extracurriculars and projects hold any merit for anyone...?

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      amyandgano

      I'd need more details to give you good advice, but there's usually a way to spin your accomplishments in the best possible light. I interviewed for a lot of positions where I had no direct experience in that specific field. I usually read the job description, isolated the tasks that were most similar to things I had done, and then rewrote a few bullet points in my resume to directly address those tasks. So for example, if I saw a job description like this: *REQUIREMENTS: • Experience with social media, notably Instagram (all aspects: writing posts, promotion, documenting engagement with followers) • Proficiency in Microsoft Office and web research; and with Adobe Creative Suite is a plus. • Strong organizational, verbal, writing and problem-solving skills. • BA degree in Fine Art, Art History, or experience in a related field.* I would think to myself, okay: I don't have experience with Instagram, and web research isn't a huge part of my job. But I could spin my resume in the best possible light with something truthful and relevant, like this: * *Created original content for company social media accounts.* * *Researched market trends to support and develop new operational initiatives. Assisted senior management with status follow-ups and progress reports.* Maybe not the best example, but you get the idea. Good luck!

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    roamer50

    Im using the sheets and giggles as well. But after almost 400 or so applications since March, Im still looking. Problem is my city also has the highest unemployment in the country and its just too competitive. I have two jobs Im waiting a response for. Ill be lucky if I go to the next stage.

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      vivalachavez

      It’s insanely competitive. And I don’t even think it’s true competition just notice that recruiters know they got 100+ applicants ready on standby. Whereas before you may have had a handful of good candidates. Even the general attitude of recruiters I’ve noticed isn’t as polite as before

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    S_O_U_L254

    This is amazing I'm still applying for jobs and hoping to hear soon All the best

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    RogueMimzy

    Oh wow! I'm also currently looking with a similar background. Music education, performance management, etc. What kind of position did you end up in? I've discovered that teaching isn't a good fit but I enjoy being in the Arts. Ideally I'd love to be working with an arts organization but there don't seem to be a lot hiring these days.

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      amyandgano

      Yes, it sounds like our backgrounds are really similar! So, I applied heavily to arts organizations but found, like you, that the industry is contracting. I took an administrative position at a well-known organization, but not directly in my field.

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    pretty-ribcage

    The 92 never heard back is really interesting...

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    Mulley-It-Over

    Good for you!! And I like how you kept track of your numbers. It was an interesting read. My oldest son just went through this process. As a former sales rep I kept telling him “it’s a numbers game. Get your resume out to as many companies/people as you can.” Good luck with your new job!

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      amyandgano

      Thank you! That's what my mom always said too. I truly believe it! Thanks so much again.

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    pelicanfriends

    Wow! Thanks for this and congratulations!

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    Packynin

    Did you include personal hobby type interests or professional goals/interests?

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      amyandgano

      Personal interests only. My exact line (when I included it) was: "**Interests** – Camping, hiking, bicycling, drawing, mycology." As a side note - I'm Asian, and we are sometimes stereotyped as being all the same, boring robot drones, etc. I felt like adding the interests might have humanized me to hiring managers. I didn't put any professional goals. I used to do some hiring and never found those sections that interesting. But it's probably different for other industries.

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    Accomplished-Tackle2

    You are smart and generous. Glad to hear it paid off!

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    theceesaw

    I'm currently employed and looking (no lateral moves). I think I've dropped around 30 apps so far and best I got was a call set up and then they never called. So props to you!

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      amyandgano

      Thanks. I hope good things come your way soon!

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    curly-redhead

    Thanks for the stats. This is so dead on to the real situation these days -- and even more so for senior level professionals.

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    tltr4560

    Are you entry level? How many jobs did you apply to per day and per week, on average?

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      amyandgano

      Not entry level. I’m 28 with 4 years of experience in management. I applied to 5-7 jobs a day max, but sometimes I only managed to do 1 job a day. I was very slow because I was researching the companies, personalizing my resume and cover letter a lot, etc.

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    warriorlynx

    Fricken scammers ughhhhhh but congrats!

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    aapaul

    I love this! Thank you. And congrats. You earned this!

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    premiumboar

    What job did you get in the end?

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    eyewant2bleve

    I have never heard back from a single thing on NYFA, how did you get responses off there?

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      amyandgano

      Hm. If I had to speculate: I think every NYFA opening is flooded with resumes right now. So they can be very picky. I started out by applying to any NYFA job I felt I *could* do (e.g., art handler, artist assistant, etc.). But, like you, I never, ever heard back from those jobs. I only received responses from jobs where I had directly relevant experience (e.g., administrative or managerial roles). I felt like my suspicions were confirmed in my first couple NYFA interviews. The hiring managers mentioned that they were flooded with hundreds of applications, and made a point of praising the fact that I actually had relevant experience to that role. So, pretty early on, I stopped applying broadly on NYFA. It meant that I only applied to 8-10 NYFA jobs a week, but my response rate shot up. Indeed was very different. I found that Indeed employers were much more willing to interview me even if I didn't have directly relevant experience.

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    Think I will stick to my template...

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    Level_Lavishness2613

    Congratulations

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    Congratulations!!

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    itsmemariotime

    These are really good odds.

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    itsacheesestick

    That's great! I have similar experiences, what job title or field did you get? I'm going to see if I can expand my job search.

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    moesavings

    Congratulations on your new job !! Just apply to five different employers wish me luck

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    _cheesepizza

    Congrats!🙌🏽

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    sassylilmidge

    Congrats!! Do you have any suggestions for the final rounds of interviews? I’ve had several interviews as well that have gone on to the last stage and then got rejected from those, and that just really sucks. If you have any suggestions for those final stages, I would genuinely appreciate!! Also if you don’t mind my asking when did you start this whole job search process/how long did it take you to get your offer from the day you submitted your first application? And did you spend literally ALL day job searching or maybe like 4 or so hours and then focus on something else? I guess my struggle has been that I’ve been hyper focused on job searching and won’t rest until I have an offer I am happy with, so that means it’s all that’s on my mind all the time. How did you structure your days to be most productive? Thanks and congrats again!

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      amyandgano

      Oh man, I have been right there with you so many times. I hope good things come your way soon! I really can't call myself an expert on final rounds since I've only done it 5 times. These are my general thoughts, though: * **Anticipating common interview questions** - At the lower levels (where I am), there are only so many interview questions that get asked (even in the second and third rounds). I found [this free Balance Careers website](https://www.thebalancecareers.com/job-interview-questions-and-answers-2061204) very helpful for all of that. They have lists of common interview questions and suggestions for how to answer. I came up with my answers for pretty much all common interview questions and practiced them obsessively. * **Peg your answers to your accomplishments** - I wrote a little about that [here](https://old.reddit.com/r/jobs/comments/jvyi8o/after_132_applications_i_accepted_a_fulltime_job/gcowcsr/). Basically, figure out what the most impressive things are about you and connect every interview answer to one or more of those. So if someone asked the classic, "How do you handle stress and pressure?" I had a semi-memorized answer ready to go that connected back to a striking, memorable accomplishment. E.g.: "In my current position, I run a lot of high-pressure, high-stress events. I remember one time, I was overseeing an event for the entire cast of the Lion King on Broadway and everything needed to be perfect. It turns out they needed a red carpet and a photo backdrop, but it seems like there was a miscommunication and the information didn't make it to us. So, my coworker and I sprang into action... [DETAILS] and, in the end, the night went off perfectly. No one even noticed a thing. I deal with challenging situations by leaping into action and doing everything I can in the here and now." I would be brief, but make the example as funny and vivid as possible. * **Get your most successful friend to critique your interviewing skills** (multiple times if possible) - This was painful, but helpful. I picked the most successful person I know and asked them to do several mock interviews with me. Most people will be flattered to be asked. **1) You want to practice until it's automatic.** In the first practice round, I would fall apart during basic questions out of nervousness (and because the situation was so weird). By the later rounds, I had a smooth, but natural (I hope) patter down. **2) Their feedback will be really important.** They might tell you you need to brag more, or say that one of your anecdotes is particularly interesting and you need to find a way to work it in earlier. **3) If possible, get them to practice with you the night/morning before interviews so you're not walking in completely cold.** Eventually I stopped relying on this, but I found it helpful for my first few 2+ round interviews. For your other questions: I submitted my first application July 15. I got my offer yesterday, November 17. I took a few weeks off in August and September for personal life stuff. I am definitely not the most productive person when it comes to job searching. I'm a late riser, so I would usually get up around 10, start applying by 12, and keep working until 7. I always felt a lot of guilt hanging over my head if I weren't applying at that exact moment. Don't be like me! Definitely keep space in your life for hobbies and joy. Save chunks of your day to do things you like. Sorry this was so long. Thank you so much!!

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    JKeg555

    Never even thought about looking at Craigslist for job offers. Was that pretty successful for you?

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      amyandgano

      It has been in the past - I got my first two real jobs from Craigslist! It wasn’t so great this time around - fewer jobs, lower-quality jobs, etc. I don’t know if that’s somehow connected to the pandemic or if something changed since I last went job hunting but yeah. There are certainly real jobs on there.

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    Novice_in_everything

    Hello, long time lurker here. I am just wondering how did you know it was a scam? Any advice?

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      amyandgano

      A couple ways. Sometimes Indeed/Craigslist would take down the opening and email me directly to tell me that the posting was a scam. A few times, I got an invitation to interview that looked sketchy. Anything with the words "recruiting" or "webinar" was a red flag, as I'm not high-profile enough to be actively recruited and I don't want to watch a webinar. When I Googled the companies, their websites had no real information and there were no reviews on Glassdoor. So, while I don't know for sure, I'm pretty sure those companies were scams too.

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    Dangerous_Way_7075

    congratulations

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    smartchik

    Congratulations on getting a job! This is huge from every stand point... The work you have to put in while on this endeavor is a full time job itself..... I also want to THANK YOU for providing all stats and answering pretty much all questions one might have! When I read "another" post when someone got a job, is usually goes something like: I applied for so long.... (time frame), and finally got my full time job. Good luck everyone, and keep going " something along these lines..... So I always wonder what kind of job did he/she get, what is the background, where did he/she look for jobs, what was the process and other stats..... So huge thank you again for taking the time to share everything you did! 🙏☺️

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      amyandgano

      Thank you very much! I'm so glad it was helpful. Have a great day :)

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    mindyourown_biz

    Wow, congrats!

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    Imma_Dwahhf

    Congrats to the OP, and I am glad to see that I am not the only one keeping stats on all my applications, interviews, etc.

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    HeyMustacheWhatsUp

    I feel it is my civic duty to inject some reality into this fairytale story. Folks, if you are invited to participate in the interview process with a company, know that the success rate in the OP is highly skewed. Lots of external influences. 5/11 = 45.5% interview to offer success rate. In a first-round interview, you're in the Top 5. In other words, your chance of an offer at this stage is 20%. If you go onto Round 2, you're Top 3 (33.3%). So 0.20 x 0.33 = 6.6% chance of getting an offer after being invited to interview in a 2 rounds process. With each successive round, the percent goes down, mathematically. So OP went through 11 separate interview processes and walked away with 45.5% at the end of it all? Nope. That's why I say external influences. Since OP went through a 2 round process for each of her 5 offers, she only ever had a 6.6% chance on those 5 separate occassions. Also a cumulatively worse % if you were to factor in the math on the other 6 that ended at Round 1 ... so, again, 45.5% attributed to purely hustling and hard work... yeah, no. For you, random redditor, reading this, 45.5% is not a realistic rate and it's dangerous to your mental health to compare yourself to this fairytale story.

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      snowmaninheat

      Or maybe OP is a desirable, competitive candidate?

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    AsexualArowana

    I'm sorry, but what's the point of posts like this? I'm not trying to be "that guy" but you got 5 offers and you turned them down? I haven't even gotten a single interview and I've been shooting out applications for awhile. They haven't been tailored, but I've been sending them out. I don't think posts like this help anyone. Most of the subreddit has a treasure trove of decent tips designed to help job seekers in different areas of job hunting. Posts like these just reinforce my belief that job hunting is seemingly random and that all I can do is apply for jobs and pray I get something.

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    Purrcapita

    Thank you for this very helpful post!

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    Electronic_Earth_429

    So glad to hear that you got a job! I can't imagine your frustration as you submitted resume after resume to job after job, and didn't hear anything back from most of them! I found this tool that helps get your resume fitted for applying for a job. It scans your resume and compares it to the job listing provided. It finds what is missing in your resume, and thus helps you get interviewed sooner! I hope it helps! [https://www.idealresume.com/resume-a-match](https://www.idealresume.com/resume-a-match)

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    palmtrees007

    Posting to come back to this!

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    bucketsofmercy

    132 applications over 3 months, damn.

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    -gpz-

    So happy you followed my format of the hiring stats! Thank you!

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    jonascinco

    How

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    Creative_Geologist62

    This is really depressing

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    HeyMustacheWhatsUp

    I'm not saying that you didn't put in the work and offer some solid advice, but let's be honest ... 5 job offers out of 11 interviews is extraordinarily successful ... how much of that was attributed to the fact you're a young fit good looking woman applying for traditionally female-preferred roles?

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      amyandgano

      Ha! It's nice of you to assume I'm good-looking, but I'm not sure where you're getting that. If you search my username, any photos that come up are not me. To your larger point: we all come into the process with advantages and disadvantages. Yes, I'm a people person who presents well in interviews. But at times I've also felt held back because of my gender and race. For example, I was told by the VP of my former company that my boss was hired over me (the internal candidate) because they wanted a man. But yanno. You can only work with what you have. I try to make the most of what I have, and work on what I wasn't born with.

      10 months ago

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