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    izitfriday

    Can relate! I really think job postings should post the minimum so you don’t waste your time interviewing/applying if it’s low pay for picky requirements

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      lmnopq13

      Fun fact. Colorado passed this as a law and now remote work companies are avoiding hiring from CO.

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    BarrattG

    In the future ask for the pay bracket, if the job was forecast to be $22 an hour, and you say 'I want $17 guaranteed' they'll give you $17.

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      Layfitness

      You know how to play the game

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    celliconquista

    I can’t afford to choose anymore. I’m running out of money for the basics now. This is the shit they want you to go through and I’m very angry about it.

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      Mom2leopold

      This internet stranger hopes something good comes your way soon. 💖⚡️

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    Lakersrock111

    I think many of us can relate to Ryan!

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    Sumbooodie

    I'm not getting off the couch for less than $20.. bare minimum.

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    Derock85

    Nothing wrong with getting the basic pay minimum out of the way. You need to get paid what you need to get paid.

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    Setting_Pleasant

    We got bills to pay man

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    grizz07

    Had a phone interview for a credit analyst position with a no name bank. I'm in CO so they have to post the range in the job (which was 40-60k). Guy went on a sales pitch about the company and it finally came to salary expectations. Recruiter tells me that for a fresh out of college graduate like me, the range is 40-50k, which is less than what I make in my role now. Told the recruiter I would need at least 55k to make it worth my time. Never heard back. Fucking slumlords

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      SufficientMemory8405

      Isn't this still against the law in CO if they post a range and tell you a different range because you're a new college grad? That tells you about them. You'll find something better. Good luck!

      4 months ago

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    j-hank

    I'm curious what job you were applying for

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      bitetheboxer

      You should be more curious about where they are.

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    Dabasacka43

    Glad to know I’m not the only one who keeps it straight snd real with these employers

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    Yjytrash01

    Yeah, I did this to a recruiter when she said that the offer pays at $200/ month. I declined because I'm already earning at $500/month from my former job and a salary downgrade is the least thing that I need right now. I have bills and expenses to pay, I ain't settling down for less.

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      MillenniumGreed

      200 a MONTH?

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    yggdrasila

    Yep I’m swinging on the first phone screening if they didn’t post the pay range I’m asking and if they really don’t wanna tell me I’m swinging high like I’m skipping to work if they pay me the amount I name. Good luck fellow job seekers.

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    ShadoowManX

    They never want to answer the question about minimum wages because they know they won't get people to work. People need hire pay to sustain help themselves. Either cut out the bullshit and be honest, or don't be surprised when you don't get anyone to work for you.

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    Living_Ad_2141

    I apply for jobs, some of which I’m perfect for, get no call backs, but get calls from recruiters about jobs where they want me to take a 25% pay cut and lose my benefits. When I do get interviews, they are for the jobs I probably shouldn’t have applied for because they weren’t good fits, and then they seem to expect me to somehow gloss over that entirely with my interview performance, while they’re making it clear that that is an impossible feat.

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    dalej42

    I’d think for a job at the $17 range, there really isn’t much flexibility on the pay and this since they couldn’t even meet that, it was right to take himself out of consideration early

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    Bitcoacher

    I feel you. I’m a freelance writer and most clients want to pay peanuts for work (and they often won’t tell you until you’ve interviewed). Meanwhile, rent costs $2,000 and you’ve got all of the living essentials to take care of. The cost of living is rising while companies are paying us less and less

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      truckinmama2001

      While pocketing more. It's disgusting.

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    thesupersoap33

    Them: okay have a great day Ryan. You: fuck yourself, Steve. And lose my number.

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    my_research_account

    This sounds like a really good way to miss out on at least as many desirable interviews as it saves time preventing undesirable ones. I know if I were the one in charge of setting up interviews, I'd probably have said 'good day' just from the sound of potential belligerence, even if the position was starting at $25. The *concept* has some merit, but the delivery is very probably going to be a turn-off to a lot of people. Mostly, I suspect this would be far better spoken than typed because so much nuance is lost in simple text, so one would need to make up for the lack of ability to impart vocal tone and cadence by utilizing careful word choice. "I don't want to waste your time if you don't meet my condition" can easily sound more like a threat than an attempt at consideration.

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      Mom2leopold

      I honestly think it’s fine. It would be a different matter if so many companies didn’t have a history of lowballing candidates or paying a barely survivable wage, but that’s not the world we live in. Ryan didn’t use disrespectful or obscene language; he in fact framed it as not wanting to waste *their* time. So many companies now also require multiple interviews for the same job that I don’t blame Ryan for wanting to cut his losses.

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    TX_Godfather

    This is based on the assumption of no college degree or prior marketable skills, but I have some suggestions. Truckers get paid well. I would also advise looking into working on an oil rig. You may consider trade school for lucrative careers like becoming a plumber, welder, or electrician. Good Luck mate!

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      littleone103

      I love seeing people advocate for the trades! I have a Masters degree, still owe $10,000 in student loans almost a decade after graduating, and I actually make $7 less an hour than my husband who dropped out of college to pursue an apprenticeship in a trade. Not only does he make good money doing what he does, but he learned such valuable information and skills that we save thousands every year as homeowners, because he understands enough about the way things work to fix them without having to hire a “professional”. I love it!

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    DrowningInPhoenix

    I don't know. I think you might shoot yourself in the foot with this strategy. If they're offering less than 17 you save yourself some time, but if they're offering more than 17 you just told them that you can be bought for less.

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    Leolily1221

    If everyone did this for the next month...it would be really interesting to see what would happen.

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    edgyb67

    ya and $ 32,000 a year could probably just get you a small place to live and maybe a car payment. Imagine if they offered medical and dental that would really suck.

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    HOOP435

    ![gif](giphy|QxHQ4BtLeEGBlWIFTs|downsized)

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    atheist-Allah

    I think what you're asking for is reasonable, but the timing was off. After you provide the facts and experiences"resume" at the -interview- and put it on the table you can proceed and call them out. Arrogance is never your friend specifically your !future boss!

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      Renounce__darkness

      True, but look at it this way. You go through that entire speal (10-40 minute of super personal questions) only to be told the job pay is less then $15. That is 40 minutes which you could of been applying for instead. He should of called first and asked about the pay bracket, then if they refuse to tell him the pay bracket then he should either politely decline the offer, or say his amount he wants. This is information they should tell you, if they aren't going to even tell you this information then why would you want to work for them?

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    Mobden3

    I personally would try to be more nonchalant with it, like one guy said, ask about the pay range/pay bracket for the average person in that position. With that being said, if i cant find the salary ranges either on the employers job posting or online, i personally refuse to apply tp that job

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    tips_

    Actually, this was a bad move on your part. I can see your understanding in wanting to avoid wasting time if the pay didn’t match what you wanted, however the job seeking process is this way for a reason. Generally, the hiring manager in the interview would discuss the pay rate. Not this HR, recruiter, or whoever you were speaking to here. You eliminated your self with your perceived attitude for no reason.

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      nilla-wafers

      Or companies could just put the approximate/expected pay range on the job site/application. It’s only this way because people try to justify redundant bureaucracy. Why would I want to work for a company that won’t even give the recruiter information about potential pay?

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    VeeRook

    As a secretary, I set up some interviews for my director. I honestly had no idea was pay was, HR handled that. Someone did ask once, I said it's handled by HR so she declined an interview. If she hadn't went straight for a denial, I would've seen what I could've done. Maybe give HR a call and ask for a range I could've given her. Maybe they wouldn't give me one, but I'd still give it a shot. This scheduler didn't seem to want to try.

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      GLight3

      Why didn't you tell her that you could have seen what you could have done? You gave her a dismissive answer by telling her it's handled by HR and then failing to mention that maybe you can do something. Why should she waste her time (and your company's) by going to an interview before knowing basic info like this, which could have (should have) been provided before anyone applied in the first place.

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    Gaz142

    USA salaries are too much :D 17/h is more than avg 0 to 5 year experinced engineer hourly rate in my country.

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    Ecstatic-Ad6730

    Bro got offered 2 positions this week where they waited to tell me wages when they made the offers smh

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    Sufficient_Training6

    Tell Um.

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    Recruiter4theppl

    By law in some states they have to tell you the approved pay range for a role. So when they ask what you’re looking to make just ask what they’re looking to pay. Nobody starts the process without a window. It’s part of the approval process and they should have that info before they start reaching out to candidates. Unless it’s a recruiting agency. They may want to withhold that info since they have multiple clients and can place you in a variety of roles.

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    noodlebball

    At least they are honest with you. Win win for both

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    ikalwewe

    In Japan the salaries are usually posted. If they are not then I suspect it's under market rate.

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    mrschaney

    It used to be that it was standard to not ask about pay until a job is offered. I see that most younger applicants want to discuss pay right off and it puts the hiring manager off. Waste their time? They are doing their job, you aren’t wasting time.

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      Mom2leopold

      “Younger people these days” want that because wages haven’t kept up with inflation, we have astronomical student debt, and the gig economy and the penchant for short-term contracts with no benefits are destroying pensions and security.

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    MouthBweether

    Employers get sketchier every year.

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