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My former boss texted me asking where I was today after my last day being Friday
I put my 2 weeks notice in at my company on March 8th. I then called my boss to resign and then emailed him my resignation letter and then emailed it to HR with him on the thread. I then had a conversation with him last Monday where he berated me asking why I’m quitting etc. I get a text today while on the first day of my new job from my ex boss asking me if I’m coming in today or if Friday was my last day. I didn’t even respond. How can people be so stupid sometimes? I’m thankful I no longer have to deal with this ridiculous boss anymore. I would also like to say that this is a job in the technology and communication field. This isn’t like some hourly food service job. Oh and I was there for 2 years.
I hate my job but i make too much money to leave.
I (25f) have worked at a fast food restaurant for about 5 years now. I moved up to management fairly quickly and a little over a year ago I became the restaurant general manager. I hate it so much. I do a great job, i have a great store. I’ve broken sales records, get good grades on the inspections, and basically max out my bonus each month. The pay is great especially being young and single. But the stress is terrible. I do absolutely everything myself and i never have a day off to myself. I’ve developed an stomach ulcers from stress. I know health should be my top priority but i have no degrees or skills and so im worried this could be as good as it’s gonna get for me. I have a lot of bills and i basically take care of my parents and sister. Im so lost. I don’t want to trade one stressful place for another, especially if i already know everything about this job. Just any advice would be so competently appreciated.
After several months of painful efforts, I got 5 job offers in one month!
Before penning down my job search experience, interview processes, and stuff, you may check out my previous posts regarding my background story, constant failures, ghosting, and frustration. [\[Background post 1\]](https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/comments/kxj4cx/phd_degree_multiple_publications_patents_with_a/) [\[Background post 2\]](https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/comments/jnxyj8/im_a_26m_6th_year_phd_student_i_got_a_rejection/) Anyway! Instead of focusing on my recruiting hell experience here, I would like to share my success story, lessons I learned from it, and a few tips/suggestions. **Brief background:** My job search started in June-July 2020. As we all know, this was a peak time for COVID and so many companies stopped the hiring process during this time. I was desperately and constantly applying for all the possible/available positions and did not get a SINGLE response for any interview in the last 6 months. Things started looking good after Jan-Feb this year. I started getting emails for phone/zoom interviews from the same companies that did not respond to me previously. In these last two months, I received calls for interviews from 6 companies, out of which 5 companies liked my interview and gave an offer within a week after the interview. **Preparation and Tips:** **1. Mindset:** It is very understandable that these (constant) rejections and failures make us weak and destroy the mental/physical health. As I was constantly getting rejected and ghosted last year, I did not stop my preparation. I was aggressively improving my technical skillsets, presentation skills, communications, and interview skills. I channelized my frustration and anger towards my profile improvement. So, don't ignore mental health and try to get back on track as soon as possible. **2. Skills:** So, in addition to my job-description/resume skills, I learned new stuff, diversified my skills that were closely related to my required job skills. Additional knowledge will never go fruitless. I read hundreds of articles, papers, watched YouTube videos, and stalked people (to see their skills) on LinkedIn who were in similar roles. **3. Communication:** Effective Communication is one the MOST crucial parts of almost all corporate interviews. I have seen that some of my friends who have very limited technical skills got better job offers in comparison to the people who are technically superior but lack at communicating and conveying their thoughts to the interviewers. **4. Notes:** I made two notebooks (and also PPTs) for the interview practice. One was for technical skill and the second one for the behavior/personality questions. Whenever I watched any video or read an article, I used to note down the points and refine my answers to interview questions. This habit was immensely helpful for me. I treated each interview as my university final exam. **5. Behavior Interview:** In one of my interviews, I was talking to the manager and I asked him what kind of things you are looking for in the potential employee. He told me that, of-course technical skills are necessary, but we are looking for sensible HUMAN BEING, not a technical ROBOT. I see many people ignore the practice of behavior interviews and only focus on the technical part. Have your answer scripts ‘perfectly’ ready for questions like: tell me about yourself, strengths-weakness, conflicts, future plans, why do you want to join us, etc. DO NOT COPY OR MEMORISE ANSWERS FROM ANY ARTICLE OR VIDEO. Just learn the core part of these answers and add your own personal (real) experiences and views to these answers. Interviewers are masters at detecting the made-up answers and stories. I always showed genuineness, positivity, and eagerness in my answers, and I won’t lie, all these interviewers gave really good feedback on my answers. Tell your answers using the STAR (situation-task-action-result) method. **6. Networking and Referrals:** I was really trying hard not to add this point in my answer, as I have extremely worst networking experiences throughout this search. During my job hunting, I relentlessly kept messaging/emailing/begging known/unknown people on LinkedIn for help. It breaks my heart to tell you that, some of my senior friends(??) and known people did not even reply to my texts and calls while I was drenching my pillow with tears every night. Forget such people. I made many new connections on LinkedIn and 1-2% of these people generously helped me, talked to me, and gave tips. I will never forget these people and I sent the thank you note once I got the offers. So, keep pushing and networking people. It may work, may not work! Who knows! **7. Hope:** A few months ago, I made a post on the suicide watch subreddit, as I was at my breaking point and did not know what my future will be. I very well understand the job search frustrations. But, as I said earlier, instead of taking these failures personally, I channelized my extreme anger, rage, and intensity for the next steps. I started taking breaks from the relentless applications, meditated, and had faith in myself. I received similar advice when I posted my frustrations in my previous posts and I am extremely grateful for the positive support many commentators gave me during my difficult phase. I agree that as we all come from different and diverse technical backgrounds, my experiences and tips may not be applicable to everyone. Anyhow, I really hope my experiences and tips would be helpful for some of the job aspirants in this forum. Good luck to all!
How do you keep up motivation to job hunt after losing your job, career, with countless rejections and no ambition anymore?
My maternity leave replacement thinks I'm great
Over the past 2 years, management has treated me like garbage. Being the only young woman in my department, I've faced being treated like an assistant, not being taken seriously, having my suggestions but from a man repeating it taken into consideration, and being told to use my "feminine charm" to get what I want from other men in the corporation. My mental health had been really declining. I started standing up for myself which went fine with my boss, but not for his boss. I started getting treated poorly by him and literally everything I did there was a complaint for. All my suggestions were shot down and I started getting in trouble for things that were beyond my control. I got left out of important meetings, despite everyone else in the department getting the invitation. All the training courses I asked for had been denied. Becaise of COVID and our living situation, it wasnt an option for my to find a new job and leave. My husband and i decided because of that it was a good opportunity to start our family. You can imagine the tremendous support I received from management but I figured I would be out of there soon and would just keep my head down. My temporary replacement is a man in his 50s who recently retired from a District Manager position in the public sector. He was making over $100k for over 10 years. The past week while I was training him, he observed, asked lots of questions and was taking if all in. On Friday he asked me how I was feeling, I said fine and he said great because he was going to need me to help him for as long as possible. Later that day I was showing him some more tasks, specifically my spreadsheet. He cut me off and said that this place was extremely lucky to have me work for them. He complimented my technical skills and soft skills and said I was the full package for basically any job I ever wanted due to my knowledge, interpersonal skills, etc. Hearing all this from someone at his level had me over the moon. He said I should ask for a raise when I get back from my mat leave and that if I ever wanted to use him as a reference, he would be more than willing to give me one. If only he knew what has been going on... Friday was the best day I've had in this job in a very long time. It's nice to win one sometimes and it really made me feel like my bosses are wrong about me.
Today I Got Two Job Offers After 370 Applications
Modern job search sucks, but finally it's done. Multiple interviews, 2 hour tests... 6 interviews for each company, and today I received two offers. Never stop applying. It's hard, but it's the key to succeed. Good luck!
Some Virtual Interview Advice From A Young Person With Anxiety
This subreddit has helped me enormously and this is my attempt to give back. I am no expert in job searching, I’m not even a seasoned professional. I am a 24 year old relative newbie to the world of jobs who was laid off 4 months ago due to Covid, and thus has spent a lot of time looking for work and going through interviews in the midst of a pandemic. As a young and incredibly anxious person interviews are my worst nightmare, so I wanted to share the specific steps that have made virtual interviews bearable (and often successful!) for me. Please feel free to offer up your own tricks and routines in the comments! These are mine: * If you have a say in the matter, late morning is the best time to interview in my opinion — there’s time to prep after you wake up, but you don’t spend all day stressing about it. * Handwrite your notes — I have handwritten general notes that I use for every interview, and I handwrite job-specific notes in the hour leading up to the interview so it is fresh in my mind. These are easy to have in front of you and writing them by hand better ingrains them in your head. * Have a couple interview outfits and hairstyles that you feel really cute/confident in. You don’t want to be thinking about how you look the whole time or constantly adjusting your hair. Over video I find that higher collars are more flattering and I like having my hair in braids so it’s fully out of my face and not annoying. (For me this also includes putting on liquid eyeliner which makes me feel badass) * Do a solo practice Zoom ahead of time to make sure your background is lined up well, the lighting is good, and you look fresh af. * Lavender aroma therapy! This really helps me sooth my nerves. If, like me, you have a physical reaction to the stress of an interview (such as getting really shaky and jittery), lavender is surprisingly effective. My Mum gave me a lavender aroma bar that I’ll basically huff in the 10 minutes leading up to an interview. * Trust that the anticipation is a million times worse than the actual event. A couple minutes in you will relax at least partially because the circumstances are less unknown to you. * Get comfortable with certain phrases — there are some questions that you’ll find yourself answering in every interview (e.g. tell us about yourself). Really hone your responses to these so it’s clear and well worded and you can do it in your sleep, but be sure that part of your practice is keeping it animated and personable. * KEY ADVICE FROM MY RECRUITER BEST FRIEND THAT HELPED ME A TON: while the interview is probably the biggest and most important part of your day, the interviewer is NOT spending all day thinking about you. You are a slot in their calendar. It is not as earth shattering to them as it is to you and this is a good thing to remember to take some of the weight out of it. * Also, the recruiter wants you to do well. They are not looking for any excuse to write you off, it’s the opposite. Their job is to fill the role and they want you to succeed so that they can succeed. It’s easy to feel judged and scrutinized but ultimately they are rooting for you to do well. * When the interview is over, let it be over. Do everything you can to keep from replaying and agonizing over the details. It does not help you. Don’t put yourself through it twice (or more). Once was enough. I know this is easier said than done, so if you can’t let it go try to identify at least one thing that you feel you did really well and zero in on that. This is coming from someone with a LOT of anxiety around interviewing (and in general), and who struggles with overthinking and feeling harshly scrutinized, judged, and doomed to fail. I think if you are like me, the best thing you can do is develop a personalized routine around your interview. For me, handwriting my notes, doing my hair and makeup, and getting everything set up the same way every time is really comforting and makes me feel more in control of something I ultimately have little control over. I hope this helps someone. Anxiety sucks. Best of luck :)
3 minutes into the interview the interviewer goes on a tangent about how I'm not a fit for the role.
So I just got off out from an interview (I hung up) for this junior content writing role that I had at 2 pm today and am so disappointed. Not even three minutes into the conversation and the interviewer guy says I'm looking at your resume and don't think that you have the experience then goes on to list all the things missing from my resume that they need. Like wtf, was that really necessary? Did you not read my resume before you asked me to interview? It honestly felt like he wanted to interview me just to tear me down. Sorry for graduating in the middle of a pandemic, my apologies for not having a tonne of experience for what YOU listed as a junior role and asked for 0-2 years experience. Honestly, what's the point of this? I just needed to get this off my chest.
People don't leave bad jobs, they leave bad bosses.
Okay so my job sucks too, but of the two my manager is probably 3x worse than the job itself. I'm not sure what to do, as I don't get any support whatsoever. I try and resolve issues myself, but sometimes I felt the need to get my manager involved. However, each time these issues get shrugged off. The thing that annoys me the most is during group meetings my manager will say something like "if you have an issue, please reach out to me so I can help". Then proceeds to do nothing about it when brought up. I'm under the impression he says this in front of the group, just for the sake of it. I don't know what to do, as any issue I have that I can't handle on my own, I know I can't rely on my boss to provide any sort of shpport. The obvious answer is find another job, but that's easier said than done. I am losing motivation fast and have wanted to quit every day for the past 2 months (I literally have my resignation letter ready and an email drafted, I only need to sign and date my resignation letter).
Why is there an "office b*tch" in every workplace?
Today my daughter called me in floods of tears from her new job, telling me a manager (not hers) had walked up to her and told her, "Your skirt is too short", then just walked away. She didn't even have a chance to respond. I saw her this morning, and she looked great. Skirt was an appropriate length and she was wearing opaque tights with it, to boot. She asked her friend at work and it turns out this woman has a habit of picking on the younger girls. I used to work with a miserable old cow who once told me she couldn't stand the sound my feet made when I walked in UGGS. She would bark "pick up your feet!" Why is there always one? Tell me your stories...
My dad, with 35 years experience as an engineer, just discovered the bullshit that is today's application process.
Let me preface that my dad is technically a boomer, but does not have the mentality of one. He's very liberal, caucused for Bernie twice, and is one of the smartest people I know. He was let go last May when his project ran out of funding to continue, so he's enjoying his early retirement, but he's bored. Salary doesn't matter. He's in the position where he wants to make a difference and follow his passion. His passion for the last 10 years has been climate change. He built a house with my mom that's as eco friendly as possible: solar panels, geothermal, rain barrels, etc. And he loves to teach others about it. You know when someone starts talking about their passion and they light up and get excited about it? That's my dad when I ask him about his solar panels and the data surrounding it. "Charlesdickens2007, check out how much power we got- and look- that's where you can see when the sun came out!" Recently he's been emailing me applications with a "wtf" in the subject line. They want superman. A person that can get on a roof, train the workers, be a salesman, a CDL driver, and program. Starting salary? 40k plus commission. He just wants to talk to people about solar, but he's a programmer, not someone to get on a roof or drive a rig. He then told me his history with job hunting, went like this: His internship in college finished and was transitioned into a full-time job with benefits with an aerotech company. He was asked "what division do you want to work in? Here are your 5 options" he said, "Flight simulation looks cool, I'll do that" and that's how he got his first job in engineering. When my maternal grandpa died (1992), he sent his resume to a headhunter a few states over and told them, "hey, find me a job that pays x that's in this state", he turned down a couple offers and got his second job. 5 years later he was laid off, but interviewed for a new position in a different state and moved the family with very little transition time and a large salary increase. Our next house was massive, brand new, and he saved enough to put me and my brother through college. He worked at that company for 15 years and they put him through school again. Twice. He left that position due to new management, with two additional masters degrees that were paid for by the company. Now, he's asking me tips on how to build a linked-in account. He's sending me applications asking me if it sounds like a good company. I told him my experience and we both teared up. We haven't been that close, but this had brought us together. He didn't realize how hard it was on me to go through the job hunting process, and he gets it now. When I graduated from college with my teaching degree, 5 years of coaching experience, and glowing letters of recommendation, there were 5 teaching positions open in my field. I applied and didn't hear from any of them. I left the teaching world and got into non-profit work. And I am damn good at it. But with my field, I constantly hear about people getting hired because they know someone. I have 10+ years of data driven success and someone got a position instead of me and spent Covid funds on office furniture?? All too true these days. So far, I have applied for 40+ positions since last January. I have been ghosted after 4 interviews for positions paying 70k to 100k. Including one where I did a presentation for the board of directors... 4 months later and they never returned my phone calls. Appling for a position on indeed to be asked to apply on their website is common and takes 2(ish) hours to never hear back from them. So yeah. I got to cry with my dad for a bit last week. Silver lining is that we've never been closer. But this is absolute insanity. My current boss, who was reminded to apply for his position the day it closed, who has no supervison experience, sent me an email yesterday asking, "can you even read?" After I asked a question. I'm tired. I'm worn out. And my dad, is now going through the same thing and it's making me lose hope.
Putting in notice at job after 16 years today for a mix of reasons
I started at a small law firm as a paralegal out of undergrad. I didnt expect to stay long but I ended up liking it and going to law school at night. I didnt expect to stay after law school but I did. The job has been great to me in many ways and offered me lots of good opportunities. Ive been wanting to be at a firm with a little broader work opportunity. I also saw the salary list for our firm (accidentally) a few months ago and realized how unfairly they were paying everyone versus their revenue! One lady they are paying six figures to work part time and her revenue just covers her salary, but probably not her costs. Another guy they are paying about the same for full time work but he doesnt bring in any more either - theyre losing money on those two. They were paying me less and i brought in three times my revenue. They are paying ancouple younger associates that bill a ton of hours, practicaly nothing. Then they made someone who brings in same $$ and work as me partner in summer. Then they brought in another guy from elsewhere with less experience and said that theyll make him partner soon too. It’s time to go. So i went to one of the three firms that had been asking about me in the past year. I gave them all my numbers for three years - money i bring in, clients i get myself...they gave me a 20% base raise and made me a partner. I am telling them today that I am leaving. I feel sick to my stomach! O have no doubts and no guilt but it’s still a big change. Wish me luck! UPDATE: i got to work and the boss ive worked w all these years was working from home. ive always felt like he was on my side and the other partners who have been here much less time than i have and practice a diff type of law, have always been the ones to screw me and i can tell have been at odds w my boss over it. so i told my boss and he was sad but asked where. i told him and he said it is a really good firm. then he asked associate or partner and i said partner and he said good for u, u deserve it. i thanked him for all hes done for me and he said he will tell the other partners. he asked when i was thinking of leaving and i said end of march and he said thats a good timeline. he again told me hed hate to lose me but is happy for my success. im glad to get that over. thank you everyone for sending me messages. its crazy sometimes how a bunch of internet strangers can help with hard things in life
I landed my dream role with a 50% salary bump
Hi all, This is my first post in this sub after lurking for quite some time. Some background about me - I’ve been out of college for a little over 2 years now, and got a tech job in marketing right after graduation. It was one of the best things to happen to me, because I met my awesome team who are some of my closest friends now. I’ve especially been grateful for my a manager; she’s truly been my mentor through everything. Fast forward 1.5 years later, my company started to do lay offs bc of Covid. One member of my team was impacted, and eventually, one by one, my team started to leave. My manager left next, and that sucked. I was so nervous because she and I were working on a big project together, but her leaving propelled me to learn and grow faster - and I got promoted! But still, the workload sucked. My other team member left because he wasn’t happy with his pay, and another team member transferred to a different department. I was alone now, and worse, I no longer aligned with the company and its goals at all. Constant context switching, unrealistic goals, new people hired that added to the chaos, and my current boss was a textbook micromanager. I’ve been unhappy for the past 6-7 months and decided to look for jobs. I had 2 serious interviews for 2 companies I really liked, and I made it to the final round for both. These were a time suck for me, each process taking 4 weeks each and an assignment needed for each one. It was my first time interviewing since getting my current role, and I had to adjust to doing so again. I didn’t get either one, and for the same reasons. My analytics skills weren’t on point. I’m a marketer, but for both final interviews, I had an analytics portion and I just flopped. I was discouraged and upset with myself for not making it through, and tbh, not so much because I LOVED those companies but because I wanted a way out of my job. So I studied. I bought books that covered best practices of my field of marketing, and I felt like I was re-learning what I thought I knew. Better yet, the material I studied covered my weaknesses - analytics, but also attribution. From there, I applied what I was studying on to my day job, so I can gain some practical knowledge and not just theory. That went on for months. Then, my dream company opened up a role. I was SO excited for it, but I felt nervous about failing again and I knew I’d be even more devastated if I didn’t get this one. I found out early on in the process that the salary range was up to 46% higher than my current role, and that was exciting. Truthfully, I wanted to leave my role more so because I was fed up with my work and the culture. But I went through the process, did an assignment, presentation, and finally an on-site for a 5 week process. I did so much better. It was the best interview I’ve had, truly, and I reiterated my passion for the company numerous times to every interviewer. Better yet, everything I studied for post-failed interviews paid off because I did great in the analytics portion of my onsite. I got a verbal offer on Friday, and the company gave me 4K above the highest end of the salary range (the range was give to me in the beginning of the process). I’m truly over the moon. Both parties have signed the offer letter and I’m waiting for the HR onboarding process!
I'm so tired of networking, hearing that I would be a great fit for a certain position, applying, and getting rejected 48 hours later by a hiring manager.
Is this happening to anyone else? I'm having a good time finding people in my industry or in positions I want to be in and having great conversations about what they do. Often they'll refer me to someone they know that's hiring and tell me how I fit what they're looking for, and would be great at doing xyz, and should talk to them about certain skills I have when I get the interview. I've even reached out to someone who happened to be leaving their position, and they liked me so much they put in a good word for me to be their replacement. Then the same thing happens every time, I eagerly apply and start preparing for what I would say if given an opportunity to interview, feel good about my experiences and qualifications etc. A few days later, I get a generic "Unfortunately you have not been selected at this time..." Rejection email. Not once have I even gotten an initial interview, even with glowing recommendations. Like, how does this keep happening? How am I so qualified and experienced and likeable when I talk to real people, but then when I apply for the very same position I would supposedly thrive in - I don't even know if they bothered to read my resume and cover letter. It makes me think no matter how qualified or skilled I ever become, even if I grind over the next decade to get 10+ years of experience, I will always end up in the same trash can of rejections. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
I used to love startups but now I think they're the most toxic workplaces
Seems like all the startup hype of friendly collaboration has morphed into cringy job descriptions that look like scams. I think startups are the MLM of our era.
no offers for 8+months for me and my wife, and within one day, we received 3 offers
2 for me, one for my wife and both of us got offers from the ones we absolutely wanted. It is the highest paying roles we have ever had i cant believe it. we spent all day saying is this a dream i dont want to wake up &#x200B; my wife recently moved here from HK too so she was really worried that they wouldnt hire her having no local experience and then she lands the most perfect job &#x200B; dont give up guys i had lost all hope but my outlook and mindset changed before this i learned to accept that this is a test and we will get through it i hope that everything goes well at work on monday we have both signed our contracts and are super excited. its just insane how it happened all in the same day. im not a person of faith but ill admit i prayed that things would get better im so glad they did
I got the job!!
Just wanted to share the good news to at least one person. I’m so excited and grateful for the opportunity. I’m miserable at my current job and only make $35,000. New job starts at $50,000 and have lots of opportunity for growth! I start on 3/1 but I already put in my resignation and this Friday is my last day. Can’t wait to get out of this hellhole and have a new start!!
After 322 days of being unemployed, I have signed an offer letter.
Like many have echoed when sharing this celebration- I never thought this day would come. To give back to this community, I thought I’d share some of my experiences: 1. Timing- you can’t control this. I wish I believed it more but it’s definitely much easier to say now being on the other side of things. But if I can remind you anything through all of this, it’s that some things are out of your control. Just do what you can now, apply for jobs, tweak up the resume from time to time, take that online course you’ve been eyeing, and relax. The time will come. I wish I had this mindset more. I was anxious, sleepless, angry, and just overall a mess for almost a year. Now I wish I enjoyed that time more for self reflection. Wake up and say a little gratitude and a positive affirmation to yourself- it will make such a difference. 2. Social media- I definitely had to take a break from this. The smallest things would trigger me. Instead of celebrating other people’s success, I became bitter. That was when I realized something had to change. I stopped looking at feeds on LinkedIn, and just focused on using it as a resource to find a job. Oh and the whole preach on networking if you ever want to find a job- maybe this was just for my case, but 100% of my interviews resulted from just the classic applying online. So please, let this be a testament to argue that case. 3. Getting interviews- I’m not gonna note how much applications I sent (a lot) as it will just provide some benchmark for people to compare themselves to and that’s not the purpose for this. Instead, I will talk about my journey to getting a significant increase in opportunities. When I realized I was automatically receiving rejection emails left and right to everything I believed was a perfect job for me, I knew that something was clearly wrong with my resume. Google ATS, quantify!!!!(probably the biggest game changer when I finally put in numbers), listen to free webinars regarding job hunting (some are really helpful), and take a few days to fix up your LinkedIn profile. I can clearly see those who were searching me and it almost always correlated to my interviews or when a recruiter would reach out to me. They would definitely check it out. When I realized I was now getting an influx of interviews- I knew what was working so I decided to give back and help others. I’d suggest this as it not only improves your own resume to find improvements on others and find your own mistakes but also it’s just naturally healthy for your own mindset to be able to help during these struggling times. 4. Getting the offer- probably the worst part for me mentally. I was getting interviews.. awesome! Not quite. It was the worst when I’d clear the screening, get all the way to the final round, start imagining myself in the role and the company, only to get the same rejection email. I’d get angry that I put all that effort and started taking the outcome personally. This is when I tell you to stop yourself from doing the same mistake as I did if you find yourself on the same spot. At this stage, there’s a few things I can now reflect on. Sometimes, it may have been you/ your performance compared to others. And that’s okay! If you know you did something wrong or something that could’ve been better, or a question caught you off guard, write it down! Take a moment to accept it, affirm yourself, and learn from it. I have started to write down every question an interviewer asks me, not only does it provide a good reflection post interview, but it forced me to take a moment and think before I blurt out an answer. Next reason- sometimes it really just comes down to a more comfortable candidate for the company- experience, skills, whatever. It’s not you. There’s just now a whole group of people seeking jobs as well so the competition is inevitable. This is out of your control and you’ve done your part. Your efforts were not wasted, it’ll just provide you a one-up for the next. Often times, they may have just gone with an internal candidate- I hate this one, but it happens. This is why I emphasize that timing is out of our hands. Just keep going. The day will come and we’ll all be here to celebrate you next! Feel free to PM me or ask anything. I apologize for the long post and possible errors. All the best.
Pinch me, I just got a job offer😭😭
I was just offered my dream job at my dream company a day before my birthday (yeah I can hardly believe it either). After seeing several people post about their job offers, I thought I would never get one. I was so worried about the interview I had with this company after stumbling over a certain question. I'm so happy that they were really impressed with the interview, but I'm a little torn now. I recently went through a three round interview with a company. Their HR contacted me last week to tell me I received a lot of positive feedback and they would let me know their decision by next week. She asked me to keep her in the loop about any interviews or job offers that I may receive. I didn't even think twice about the second company when I was offered this position. Now I'm wondering how to approach this without burning any bridges. Also, I would like to say this subreddit has been very helpful throughout my job hunt, and more so than any social media job guru. I've really enjoyed watching the supportive community in this subreddit especially as so many people have lost their jobs due to the pandemic. I know the job hunt is stressful and it seems like you'll never get that one offer, but you will don't give up. Stay strong and know that you're not alone.
Learn from my mistakes. I got a job, but it took me a year, 1100+ applications, and failing 11 final interviews. Here is what you don't do while job searching.
Sure, there are plenty of posts from people who applied to a job and got an offer 30 seconds later. Good for them. But if you're on this sub, you're probably running into more difficulty. I did. Job hunting these days is inherently pretty hard, but there are plenty of things I did wrong during my job hunt that could have saved me time and trouble. I'm a 35 year old in product marketing in the bay area, so this advice may or may not apply to you. Most of this advice is not new, you may have seen it elsewhere. Well, HEED MY WORDS! You should take that advice. Here are my don'ts of job hunting: e: Here's the real #1 piece of advice because someone brought it up in the comments: **Don't Not Have A Network.** The main reason I had such a hard time was I moved to a new city where I didn't have a professional relationship with ANYONE. I think if you're applying without a friend on the inside, it reduces your odds by 80-90%, based on random factoids we've all seen that say 80% of jobs are never posted publicly. I went to networking events and coffee meetups and blah blah blah, but COVID put a stop to that before I could make much progress. The biggest piece of advice (by far) is just to have a friend who can get you a job. But if you're reading this, you would have done that already if you could have. **Don't try to get by without doing the standard "best practice" stuff.** I spent a while thinking I could get away without making a customized resume for different jobs. I also thought I would probably have the right keywords naturally, and that I didn't have to worry about that either. WRONG. I wasted many weeks submitting poorly optimized resumes and getting few interviews. What you should do is have at least one version of your resume customized for each job title you're applying to. That means if you're applying for Sr. Widget Fiddler and Director of Widget Fiddling, you need 2 versions. Keyword optimize each resume version by copy-pasting 50+ job descriptions for that job's title into a tool like [Voyant Tools](https://voyant-tools.org/), which will spit out all the most common words and phrases. Find the most frequent ones that seem important and relevant, and work them into your resume, even if it seems weird to refer to yourself as a "team player" or "entrepreneurial". **Don't be bad at interviewing, not even a little bit bad.** Being a good interviewee is a skill. Most of us aren't born with that skill, and most of us are rusty when it comes time to look for a job. I knew I wasn't great at interviewing, but I really didn't want to go through awkward practice interviews with friends, so I told myself people would understand why I was all nervous, and realize I was still super talented and experienced despite my 'rough edges'. WRONG. I blew it on a lot of interviews before admitting that I had to practice, a lot. I did a bunch of practice interviews, got feedback, and I even talked to an interview coach. The latter was expensive, but I think the dose of outside perspective really helped. YMMV. I practiced enough that I started getting to final rounds instead of washing out in the first couple rounds. It made a huge difference. Practice. **Don't wing it during the interview.** For 'behavioral' questions (i.e. "tell me about a time when..." questions) everyone says you need to have multiple answers memorized for every major category of question. Ugh! So much work. Greatest weakness. Success story. Failure story. Conflict story. Collaboration story. YAWN. I thought I could come up with good answers on the spot. It's "supposed to be a conversation", right? WRONG. I blew it on a couple interviews before realizing I was coming across as both unprepared AND inexperienced. Sit down and work out your bullet points for every answer, BEFORE you land an interview. Pain in the butt? Yes. But not as big a pain as getting an interview, blowing it, then ending up doing the work anyway. **Don't apply to old job listings.** If it's still up, they're still hiring, right? WRONG. I have found that job listings are good for about as long as fresh bread. You mostly want to apply the day they're posted, 2-3 days is OK, 5 days is pushing it, beyond that, it's literal trash. I started out applying to anything relevant that was less than a month old, and my app-to-interview yield was around 1%. Started applying to new listings exclusively, and my yield went to more like 3%. YMMV. **Don't apply to listings that aren't on the employer's own site.** It's become disturbingly common for 3rd-party sites to steal and re-post job listings they have nothing to do with. You click on a link on LinkedIn or Indeed, and you end up on Neuvoo or some random BS. Don't submit any of your info on those sites. Very often the jobs are expired already, but these 3rd-party scammers are still re-posting them to steal your info. Even if they're not expired, there's no reason to think they actually send your application to the employer. If you land somewhere unexpected, go to the employer's actual careers section on their site and find the listing yourself. Otherwise you're just giving your info to someone to sell, and the employer probably never sees it. Please report these listings as you go. **Don't be too picky with job titles.** Unless your resume precisely "fits the profile" employers are looking for, you're going to have to apply a lot. I had to apply a lot. At first, I was exclusively applying to one title, because although I didn't "fit the profile" I didn't want to compromise. I ended up getting a really solid job with a different title, after I loosened my criteria JUST a tad. Have a serious talk with yourself about how many months you're willing to apply before broadening your search, and don't talk yourself out of good jobs because they have the "wrong" title. **Don't be too loose with companies you apply to.** At a couple points in the process, I ended up with interviews at companies that I seriously didn't want to work for. I was playing the numbers game and I would apply to anything with the right title, even if I hadn't heard of the company. I figured if I got an interview, I would worry about the company later. Difficulty: If you are on unemployment, this can lead to a sticky situation - if you turn down an offer, you legally can't collect unemployment anymore in many places. It's also pretty hard to justify to yourself turning down ANY interview if you actually need the money. Have a loose idea of who the company is before applying, to avoid those awkward moments. **Don't stop applying until the ink is dry on your offer letter.** My advice is to apply to every suitable listing as soon as it's posted, which could be as many as 10-30 per day depending on your field and geography. If things are going well, you'll also have interviews going on during any given week, which also put heavy demands on your mental energy and prep time. It is tempting to stop applying for jobs if you are doing multiple interviews and they seem to be going well. You need the time, and one of them has to work out, right? WRONG. It happened to me multiple times - I'd get further along in an interview process, I'd be focusing on prep, and I'd let my application routine slip. Bad idea. If your application pipeline runs dry, it can be another 2-6 weeks before the interviews start flowing again. ABA - always be applying. **Don't get your hopes up. (maybe the most important tip.)** Your mental resilience to rejection and your self-regard are finite resources. They are resources you need to conserve to maintain your overall mental health and good job-hunting habits. Job hunting can burn through these resources like Joe Exotic through a bag of meth. Don't be like me and get emotionally invested in any given job before you get an offer. Don't start picking out all the stuff you're going to buy with the new salary. Don't start thinking of what doors are going to open up for you with this step in your career. Don't mentally pick out outfits for your new commute. Just don't. I consider myself a mentally tough person, so I should be able to handle the repeated rejection, right? WRONG. If you allow yourself to start caring about a job before you GET the job, you WILL be crushed to bits. Maybe not the first time, but after the 5th, or the 10th, it becomes hard to take. To some of the newer job hunters I've seen on this sub: Caring about a job from the day you APPLY? Sheer lunacy. You shouldn't even remember where you applied by the time you go to bed that day. Keep in mind: It's a numbers game. It's not personal. You WILL get the right job eventually, **if you keep going**. You have to maintain faith in yourself, but hold no hope for any particular job. In emotional terms, treat it less like a poker game, (where any hand can be a big deal) more like a slot machine (where you care zero until you finally win). No matter how tough you think you are, take care to maintain your mental state, especially during COVID where so many aspects of life are also wearing down our mental health. **Don't be afraid to be a try-hard.** The role I finally got was based largely on a "take home project" used to demonstrate my working style. It was paid, also really long, the minimum suggested time was 10 hours. Usually I put 70% effort into trial projects, because I don't want to bust my ass for a throwaway, and I don't want to look desperate. My thinking is "Well, we're all professionals, so as long as I mention a few of the right things, they'll know we're on the same level, right?" WRONG. On this one, I decided to go HAM on the project. All or nothing. I ended up putting over 20 hours into it, (the max time they suggested was 20) and came up with a total overkill amount of material, it was probably 20 pages worth, if not more. To give some idea, I spent like 4 hours just doing addressable market sizing, which everyone including me acknowledges is fairly pointless. Part of the project was also to see how we communicate about our work - they put me on their company slack, so I logged onto it pretty much every day to update them on my progress. It was firmly in try-hard weirdo territory. But it worked! So I guess my lesson from this is, if you're going to bother with these projects, be the one who turns in the blue ribbon material. NB: *Be aware of "free work" scams where they try to get you to do the actual job without hiring you for the job. If it's pertinent to the actual job and it's more than an hour or two of work, it should be paid. Unpaid trial projects that don't relate to the actual business are OK, but you'll have to decide for yourself how much time you're willing to put in for free.* **Don't assume \*\*\*anything\*\*\* until it's final.** In 3 instances, I got much further than I expected in a hiring process, and in one I was blindsided by a rejection where I thought I was a shoo-in. #1, they interviewed me for the role (up to the final round) even though the job called for an actual engineer and I have zero engineering experience. In #2, I blew an interview and got rejected. I knew exactly how I blew it, I got the yips and did poorly. So I sent an email reply explaining what I SHOULD have said, and that I really believed in the company's mission, and that I realize I was a poor interviewee, but I was working on it - they actually gave me another shot and I made it to the final round. In the last unexpected twist story, they actually scheduled a final interview, then CANCELLED IT. I have been rejected for about a million jobs, but I've never been cancelled on. They said that instead of an interview, they would just review my trial project. I couldn't imagine cancelling an interview with someone you intend to hire, so I assumed this 'review' was just a consolation prize and the job was going to someone else. On the day the cancelled interview was meant to take place, they offered me the job. Huh???? Later that day I rode to heck on a flying pig and bought a snowcone there. But I also got a job. On the other side of things, I was told directly I was the top candidate for a role, the only one who was really qualified, but because of COVID they were putting the role on hold. OK cool, I figured I was a shoo-in once they actually hired for it. Well, they re-listed the job about 45 days later. They didn't reach out to me. I messaged them. They told me I wasn't even going to get a phone screen for it. WTF? They lied to my face for no reason whatsoever? Yep. They did. The lesson: Do not assume anything! ANYTHING!
Scrolling through LinkedIn is Fucking depressing
People posting about the new companies they founded, people connecting with each other from Haaaarvard and MIT and ohh I'm doing this with my career and I'm so excited to be starting a new role here and this is an exciting opportunity.....when did work become this like life affirming thing. We do realize we're still making money for a boss and your still replaceable. So much fake enthusiasm out there....
I gave up in the middle of the online group interview.
I guess I'm really bad at interviews.... There was 3 other people with me in the video call. The recruiter told us to introduce ourselves and he seemed very interested in the previous roles of the other candidates (they were offering a sales position). He asked them about their roles, what were their tasks in their previous jobs, and questions that matter. He seemed already very interested in a specific candidate with a long time of experience, and when it was my turn, he just made some basic questions about who am I and what I like doing in my free time. He didn't even ask me about what I did in my previous job, or something related to jobs at all. I felt like I was losing my time and negative thoughts came in to my mind, so I convinced myself I was already being rejected. So, I was feeling like sh*t and I gave up in the middle of the interview and I hung up the video call. I don't know, maybe my self esteem is so low that I can't even complete a whole interview or I'm just really tired of all this hiring process... I know that wasn't the right thing to do, but I was assuming I was already rejected, so no point to still participate in the interview. Anyways, just wanted to vent this episode, I think I should prepare myself better for online interviews... Edit: Guys, thank you sooo much for all these comments <3 I've read all of them and there's so many supportive people here. Seriously, thank you, you guys made a huge help. I will make sure to learn with my mistakes and take these valuable advices.
I got an offer!! Such a great feeling when a company finally sees your worth!
I applied to Over a hundred jobs and had maybe 6 interviews. Most of them were condescending and looking to disqualify me by asking overly technical questions for entry level “training” positions that required no experience. But this company was very different. They reached out to me and immediately saw my hustle and desire to learn and grow. They were excited to make me an offer and even created a new role specifically for me to be able to pick up additional skills. Apparently two of the teams were fighting over me haha Super stoked!
Got A Job Offer Today After Getting Laid Off 7-8 Months Ago
So happy to write this post. After interviewing with 3 companies last fall and getting declined by one and dealing with a hiring freeze by the other 2 I suddenly started getting a lot of call backs after New Years. Been working with 5-6 different companies in January and did 15-20 interviews. Can finally say I got an offer and it was my top choice! I applied to well over 100 positions. Indeed was a great resource. My best advice for anyone looking is just keep trying and don't forget to take a break sometimes. It's mentally draining. Update: always negotiate an offer. I managed to get a 3rd week of vacation after they offered 2 simply by asking. If you aren't happy with an offer you get, ask for a change. Don't be afraid just because you've been searching for a while. As long as you don't ask for something crazy, they aren't going to rescind your offer. Worst case they say no and you're stuck with your original offer.
[Update] Manager wants a bullet point list of "everything I don't like about working here"
Previous post: [https://www.reddit.com/r/jobs/comments/kiu30r/manager\_wants\_a\_bullet\_point\_list\_of\_everything\_i/](https://www.reddit.com/r/jobs/comments/kiu30r/manager_wants_a_bullet_point_list_of_everything_i/) I just want to say thank you to everyone who responded on my last post. I was a bit overwhelmed at the time but I read every single reply and they were hugely helpful, it really gave me a lot to think about. Unsurprisingly, my manager cancelled the Christmas Eve meeting which I was pretty relieved about. I had some time off over Christmas so we didn't end up speaking until around 6th January. When I eventually spoke to him I raised a few issues (which had been previously raised so no shockers) but kept things pretty neutral. In the meantime, I had two interviews with my 'dream' (as far as insurance goes!) company. I received an offer from them on Friday. Suddenly, I was feeling really guilty and conflicted about leaving. I called my manager this morning to let him know I'd received an offer... and let's just say, after the call I was no longer conflicted in the slightest. At least I can be happy knowing I've made the right decision. I start my new role in March :) just have to get through the next few weeks!
Graduated summa cum laude -- stuck in retail making $12 an hour. How do I get out of this?
Hey all, I graduated with my BA in Political Science and Japanese this past May. I managed to maintain a 4.0 and received the summa cum laude designation after all was said and done. I'm not saying this to brag -- but more so because what I'm beginning to realize is that what I worked for in school really means little to nothing. I managed to secure a job as a customer service rep at a call center about a month after graduating. I made $14.50 there, but the work was *definitely* not worth the pay. Rude customers, and little authority to do much of anything that would make them happy. Most days, I went home crying. After a summer of that, I couldn't take it anymore and left without securing a job. I was able to find one a couple months later -- as a lead at a retail store that I worked at for a few years while I was still in high school and college. I really enjoy the work there, but I only make $12.00 an hour, and it's certainly not connected to my degree. There won't be much room for growth -- one girl who started off with $12.00 got a 10 cent raise after one year of employment. Anyways, now I'm feeling more than a bit lost. I could have totally skipped college, saved four years of my time and effort, and would probably be in the same situation that I'm in now. I'm wondering how I can get out of this and into a job that more closely aligns with my interests and desired pay range. I'm considering pursuing my MA, but I can't help that that's just going to be two more years of school for absolute nothing.
unemployed for almost a year now. I don't know how to keep remaining positive.
I'm usually a software engineer but I've been out of work for almost a year now. Every now and then I used to get interviews but it seems the longer I'm unemployed the less interest people have in me. It's only natural for someone to think "If he were any good, someone would have snatched him up by now". I've been using this time to grind out some leetcode stuff, but even if I can solve the problems it's still not good enough. I'm beginning to think it's in the way I present myself or speak. I think I may be telegraphing lack of confidence, desperation, or a depressed emotional state. It's hard for me to be aware of that because I'm just trying my best to climb out of this hole but I'm sure it's glaringly obvious when someone who has interviewed many, many other candidates listens to me. My coping mechanism up until now has been "You're just looking at this the wrong way" and "You just need to keep trying" or "You're just feeling sorry for yourself". All of it could be true but I also realize I'm simply avoiding my emotions or denying myself any acknowledgement of my issues. I would like to actually improve my emotional state. To make an analogy, it feels like I let all the air out of my tires. And all of the advice I hear or encouragements I give myself tell me I need to upgrade my engine (practice more) or just wipe my windshield or turn on my defogger (look at things differently). And like a car whose tires are growing more deflated by the day, I feel it harder to keep marching on. The very air I breathe feels stale and stagnant. At times it feels suffocating. I can tune up the engine; I can wipe my windshields; but I can't just create more air by myself. I've never felt like this before, because I've never had to deal with being so isolated for so long. Even before I was unemployed, and even before covid-19, it felt like I always held positions where I was isolated from peers. Sometimes I'd go months at a time without having a real conversation with anyone. I live alone and I've also moved around a lot so I don't get to keep friends for too long. The first couple of months to a year of this was okay... but I believe I've developed genuine mental health issues from living like this for several years. Even now I feel a massive amount of anxiety just typing this out because I am making myself vulnerable by reaching out. I feel like something really bad is about to happen... even though I know nothing will. I'm not as sharp as I used to be; I'm not as smart as I used to be; I can't concentrate like I used to; I can't focus on anything. It's like my brain wants me to fix the more fundamental issues on Maslow's hierarchy of needs... and a sense of belonging and social needs takes precedent over self-actualization.
After 8 months I FINALLY have a job!
Hey guys. After 8 months of phone calls, interviews, being ghosted, and depressive episodes, I've finally landed a job. It's not my dream job, and it pays decently, but I'm glad to finally be able to do something and get more experience under my belt, hell, even make some friends. I had 2 interviews for this position, and I start tomorrow...and I'm SO nervous lol. Brief background: I graduated with a marketing degree early 2018, then found a job straight after. I worked there as a junior marketer for 2 years, and then was let go in the middle of 2020 due to COVID. I've been job hunting ever since. I probably applied for 400-500 jobs and received many phone calls, resulting in 21 interviews. Honestly, I was super thankful to at least get some interviews. A lot of them went fantastic, I improved so much over time, but kept on getting declined, it became very upsetting especially for the jobs that seemed perfect. I wanted to put together some tips and things I've picked up through my job search. Maybe it can help someone out there! :) * ALWAYS dress your best. Even for Zoom interviews. I initially didn't wear a suit jacket to interviews because I didn't think it mattered for jobs that weren't in the city. But I noticed it helped with my own confidence, and also made me stand out of the crowd, so I wore one to all interviews. * Try to start the interview by introducing yourself first (education, main job, and what you did at the job). This way you'll lay out the foundation for other questions and won't be off-put if the interview runs a different course. * Ask questions throughout the interview and look genuinely curious. * Have sort of a "bank" of questions ready to go when they ask "any questions?". My go-to questions are: "What are your expectations or goals within 3 months of hiring someone?" and "What is the hierarchy of management within your business when implementing a new campaign?" * Lie a little bit, but exaggerate more, especially on your resume. I know it's controversial, but I lied about subtle things on my resume that can't be specifically tracked, and I exaggerated figures by increasing the numbers on some marketing-related data. "Fake it till you make it". * Do it and forget it. Once you've had an interview or a phone screening, don't dwell on it. Go straight on to applying for new jobs. As many people say, it's a numbers game. * Bring a well designed and easy to read portfolio, either printed or on tablet/laptop to the interviews (may not work for some industries). This way you can also include it in the post-interview email, while also thanking them for their time. * Do any sort of exercise - gym, jogging, long walks, etc. If it wasn't for going to the gym/jogs every other day, I'd just be sitting at home and stressing about jobs..and getting fat. The gym helped take my mind off for a while, and focus on diet and ways to improve my body. I know how much the job-seeking process sucks, it's tough. I hope you can find use out of these tips. Do you guys have any tips for someone new to a job? I'm nervous as heck! Also happy to send through my resume if anyone is curious, or to use it as a template (msg me). Thanks all! Update: Well, I just completed my first day. It was pretty disappointing for how excited I was - didn't get to learn much about the business' operations, didn't get any tasks, no one came by and said hi, I was left counting down the minutes. But I'm not giving up! I'm sure it'll pick up over time. Thanks for all the wonderful comments!
I’m tired of being shamed for having “less than” jobs.
I have a college degree and initially when I first got it, I didn’t have 1) experience or 2) a car to get to my job. So I walked to work at Walmart. And now each time when I apply for jobs, I ALWAYS get asked “Um... so you worked at Walmart? Why is that?” Or a general “hmm that’s weird” kind of vibe. So what was I supposed to do? Sit home and collect unemployment? I’m so sick of the mentality of “I’m too good for THAT job” that so many college graduates seem to have.
I got a JOB!!!
I just got a job in soft engineering this Friday which pays quite well. I finished uni in 2019 and was interning last year and since June, I have been basically searching for positions. After applying for 500++ positions I got my first offer which I am very grateful for. I was mainly looking for something much more commercial in general, as coming from an engineering background I don't want to be in engineering forever. So I am thinking of taking this offer as it pays well, while continuing the search for jobs better suited to me. Thus, if I find something that suits me better, I could easily leave and join another company as I am quite young. What do you guys think?
[RANT] Hate my manager and toxic company, can't wait to put in two weeks
TL;DR: I'm underpaid and underappreciated, even after a recent raise. Coworkers are promoted and awarded around me. So I found a job that pays 20k more, with double the benefits and I'm not looking back. I still shake with anger and nervousness just thinking about it. I work in a biotech laboratory, but in the analytics department, so my coworkers and I use computers and excel all day. I was promoted to this position without a change in my pay, and I've known since taking the position that I was being underpaid by 15k-30k annually. The benefits are also bare-bones-mediocre at my company. In December I was eligible for a raise, which I got, that was infuriatingly low. I was stunned and my whole attitude about the company and my role changed. Ever since joining the department, my manager has promised "growth opportunities" yet he continues to withhold critical information as a form of control. He knows that we work in a highly specialized field and we are all underpaid, so if any one of us were to gain enough competency in our jobs, we could easily jump ship. I've literally walked him through the steps I intended to take for a project and he said nothing, only for the algorithm to fail so he could come in to the rescue. Upper management also prevents our team from accessing study data which is critical in completing projects, and my manager set it up this way intentionally (I'm 99% sure). That, or my manager is a dope. In performance reviews, I've asked multiple times for an honest criticism of my performance yet my manager always says I'm "crushing it". Everyone around me, two people my junior, have had new GPUs added to their PCs which allows them to work on more complicated and advanced projects. Last week I was told that the newest employee will be getting an upgraded GPU for his machine. I've had no such upgrades, meanwhile my manager is well aware that my machine was improperly built by IT and despite my emails to IT about the issues I've been having, he has taken no steps to address them. Maybe I'm a bad employee and my manager doesn't know how to tell me, that's fair. But I'm confident that I do quality work and I have never once had an issue with project deadlines or their completion. I feel like I'm just being used to get the most remedial tasks done. To top it all off, upper management is completely toxic and looks down at our team with utter contempt (our department generates the smallest revenue). I feel like crap after every interaction with them as they make no effort to hide their condescendence. A few in particular actively talk to me like they think I'm an idiot (maybe I am). Either way, it's no way to treat a subordinate and it really wears on my morale. At my annual raise meeting with my manager, I was told that we would all be getting big raises, "as soon as we, as a team, can justify to the company owner that our department can generate sufficient revenue". That's fair, but client contracts, billing, business acquisition, etc is all above our pay grades, we just perform the technical work to get specific projects done. I've been busting my tail for over a year, working overtime to meet deadlines, and nothing has changed. Either my manager is wholly unqualified to run a functional department, or the company actually has zero interest in investing more money into the people of our department. One day before my annual review and raise meeting, a recruiter reached out on LinkedIn with an open position identical to the work I already do. I brought this up to my manager during the raise "negotiation" and he was unphased. He said, "well you can't always believe the salaries that people post online for these positions". What a guy. So two weeks later after following up with the recruiter, I interviewed and received an offer the very next day. 20k more in salary, triple the annual bonus, 3x as many PTO days, waaaay cheaper health insurance, HSA, FSA, tuition assistance, and in a major city whose rent is significantly cheaper than the college town I currently work in. I'm still waiting on the background check to clear so I haven't been able to share all this with anyone except one trustworthy friend/coworker, so I just needed to put it all out here. SO I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE THE LOOK ON MY MANAGER'S FACE WHEN I TELL HIM I'M LEAVING. He doesn't suspect a thing, I overheard in a meeting that he expects I won't be leaving anytime soon. Screw him, screw the company owner, and screw all the people who treat me like crap because I'm leaving baby!!!!! I'm nervous though since the new employer is dragging their feet with the background check and drug testing, but those are clean so it's only a matter of time. RANT OVER. Thank you for coming to my TedTalk
Indeed is horrible
Either indeed is horrible or there are no jobs. Haven’t job searched in a few months and see the same exact jobs I saw a few months ago on there. Are there really no jobs? All I see are sale rep sales rep sales rep or and front desk associate
Why are companies ridiculous?!
I’ve been working at my job for 5 months and I began to like it around 3 months and I also started to see red flags afterward. I’m really sad and disappointed because how of overworked everyone is. Overworked and underpaid essentially. I am miserable. I have to get out of here as soon as possible. I took 3 days off and I am buried in work now. 200+ unread emails. Makes no sense to allow days off if you have to do overtime just to catch up. God please help me.
Today is my first day of work! Wish me luck!
I’m freaking out and couldn’t sleep last night.
Is Indeed aggravating anyone else?
I’ve seen a huge decline of legitimate job postings on Indeed. It seems to be more staffing agencies posting on behalf of companies or outright deceptive posts. I’m receiving an influx of emails (not through indeed) and text messages asking me to setup interviews through Telegram for entry level positions paying $25/hr. They claim the received my contact information from indeed but when I ask them to contact me through indeed, communications cease so I’m unable to identify and report them. I utilized the contact us section to email an example and express my concerns with their lack of vetting, but I doubt much will come from that. I’ve never had much luck with other job listing sites in the past, but I guess it’s time to move on.
I’ve had 4 (yes, 4) video interviews for a job. 3 out of the 4 interviewers were unprepared and unprofessional. Also, the Internet lagging was awful and made me more upset. Didn’t get the job and I am relieved.
Just wanted to post this as a reminder that sometimes not getting the job is a blessing in disguise. Well, I only had 3 video interviews. The first one ended up being a phone call because the internet was lagging and I couldn’t hear the guy at all. I move forward and last Tuesday I had the back to back video interviews. Same issue with the Internet lagging. I even moved around my house to get a better signal. It barely worked. Every single video call was like this. It was infuriating. I even offered to call them but they ignored me and continued on. Interview #1 The person I spoke to was cool and together. We got along great. This was before the holidays. After Christmas, I ended up being scheduled for the other 3 video calls. Remember, all of this is happening on a lag and terrible internet connection. Interview #2 Person was not prepared and tells me that they’ve been off work for 3 weeks and this was their first day back. Didn’t have my resume. Her dog barked and she went to get it. I’m a dog lover so this wasn’t a problem. She then tells me not to tell the next person I’m talking to about her dog. WTF. Interview #3 The worst one. Internet is horrible. I even lose connection. Person emails me and asks if it’s still a good time for a call. I suggest a phone call. No response. Since I work at home and don’t leave much, I rarely get dressed up. I did that day because I have a video interview, obviously you need to look somewhat decent and wear a real shirt. This girl didn’t get the memo. Dirty hair and a hoodie. Usually, that’s my everyday look but not during a fucking interview. She had my resume and asked irrelevant questions to the role ( at least I thought so). She kept smiling like she was stoned. It was awkward. Interview #4 Nicest person I’ve spoken to. Doesn’t have my resume because “the person who was supposed to send it over didn’t.” I make a comment about the Internet lagging and connection issues. “Oh, that happens all the time. You get used to it.” I also ask about work schedules because it’s a remote job. “We work 9-6 with an hour lunch. If you work here, it’s best to set boundaries so you don’t end up working all the time.” The whole experience was filled with examples featured in the recent r/ask thread about job interview red flags. UPDATE: this is a fully remote tech company. I should have made that clear from the start.
A guy I know lied on his resume and got hired. Now there's a buyout and the new company is checking people out.
Is there any hope for him! Just wondering if anyone has heard of this happening and it working out. Obviously he's capable and good as his job.
rant against job "experience" requirements
It seems most jobs these days ask for 3 to 5 years exp. I find that most of the jobs you can get down in 2 months or so no matter how much "experience" these employers supposedly say you need. The rest of the stuff that they say is difficult and requires a lot of experience is often niche or semiannual events that come up that even people who have been at the company 10+ years often forget procedures on. Never got why these jobs ask for so much experience. For example, Lebron when he came in the league at 18 was already better than 95% of the league even at that age. Yet the way these companies are run they would rather take a 3rd string backup who's been in the league 20 years over a newbie just cause he has no "experience" Also, even if supposedly you do have 5 to 10 years experience. You can have all the degrees, experience, and certs but every company is run different. For instance, that would be like saying Derek Jeter shouldn't be able to play 3rd base just cause he only had "experience" as a shortstop. But, really he could play both positions. Same for jobs, just cause you had 3 years exp in 1 software and the job asks for 5 years experience in 5 other softwares that have only been out 5 years doesn't mean the candidate should be rejected. Sad thing is a lot of the entry level positions even walmart, lowes, fast food are requiring 3 years experience. First off who would stay in a job like that that long unless they have no goals or are just going to school. Second, If I had 3 years exp shouldn't I be a manager instead of cashier anyways. I see that for help desk jobs too they want 3 to 5 years exp, at 3 to 5 years you should be an l2 or manager. Anyone else for getting rid of experience requirements. It seems like a way to discriminate against younger people too if you ask me because I've had interviews where they would say in the response back that they preferred someone "more senior"
Burned out after 2-3 years?
Is it common to feel burned out with a job after 2-3 years? Pretty much every job I've ever had goes well for the first year or two, but then after that it starts going downhill. At my current job, a coworker is making my life a living hell. At my previous job, my boss was a verbally abusive asshole and was fired 4mo after I quit. The job before that, they laid off a few people and gave me double the work without any extra pay. I'm wondering if it's just me because I've had plenty of coworkers who have been with the same company and with the same position for over a decade.
I quit my job today without another job lined up
I was pacing around my house the whole day. One click of a finger to call my boss. Should i do it? What do I say? The amount of projects deliverables were causing me physical pain. I felt trapped. I was losing sleep. The company was refusing to replace key staff who’s outstanding projects were just falling onto me and a few others. Unrealistic timelines and the curse of a growing company taking on way too many projects than they have resources. Bending over to any and all client requests. I finally called at 4:55. I was expecting the worst, but my boss, who is the CEO of the company, was very nice about it. He said he could hear it in my voice during the beginning of the week and had a feeling. He told me I was one of the best people he had worked with and was proud of the tenacity I showed as I joined the company and moved up the ranks in just 2 years. I told him I’ll be forever grateful for the opportunity he gave me. I told him I’ll follow up with a resignation letter to which he replied there is no need as him and I dont need to have that formality and he will always be there to elevate and encourage me in the future. I feel a lot lighter. They say people dont leave their job they leave their boss, I’m not so sure now if that’s what happened to me today. Now I have to focus on finding another job with a clear mind and the confidence that I can. I already have two interviews lined up for friday afternoon.
Just got fired a few hours ago via phone call
Supervisor called me an hour before work and told me not to come because I was terminated due to a lack of performance at Department M. I have been bounced around doing other jobs that I was not originally hired to do and the expectations were unrealistic at best. I was hired september of this year until today and was close to finishing my probation period. The supervisor did not bother tell me about my performance a lot sooner and brings it up today. Need less to say I'm pretty displeased for getting screwed and not informing me about this earlier. Now I'm just gonna focus on myself, get a new job later, and move on from the dysfunctional mess I came from. Good riddance and Happy Holidays!
Starting a new job and I feel like an idiot...!
So I start my new job on Monday. The company sent me a laptop, printer, two monitors and a phone yesterday. My husband spent all day dismantling his home office, relocating it downstairs and hooking up my new workstation. I go to login on the laptop. I try PASSWORD, PASSWORD1, etc. Nothing works. I charge up the phone to see if maybe they emailed it to me. The phone requies a PIN. So, once again, nada. I emailed the IT guy who had previously sent me a list of equipment and tracking number. It was a very polite email, just stating that I couldn't get into my laptop or phone. I'm cruising through all the new hire paperwork a half hour later, just in case I missed something. Nothing. Then I decide to look at the IT email again. F. It CLEARLY says "Welcome to XXX Company. Attached is some information to help you get into your new laptop and phone". There is a .pdf attached with all my passwords!!!!! F!!!!!! I had been too preoccupied scanning the equipment list and looking at the tracking number to notice the .pdf. I feel like an idiot. It's too late to un-send the email to him (over 30 minutes)...so now I send him a message asking him to please disregard my previous email. Like a fool. Oh, guess what? My first meeting on Monday is with the very same IT guy to go over navigating my computer. F.
Just got my dream job!!
I was desperate enough to get out of my previous job with a poor work environment (small town pizza joint) that I applied to as many places as I could, and the job that I was most interested in got back to me (escape room)!!! I don’t have many people in my personal life to share this news with so I thought maybe some strangers on the internet would be proud
I have an interview tomorrow morning and I really need this job and an income. Please wish me luck
Also, any additional advice is welcomed!!! Outside the obvious — do research on the company, brush up on your resume and your last duties and how it would apply to current role. Sell myself. How to REALLY stand out? Edit: WOW, did not expect this post to blow up! Thank you all for your overwhelming support and I appreciate all of you and your tips and advice.
One of the worst things about COVID-19 for those who have been lucky enough to secure work is that it is perhaps harder than ever in recent history to leave bad jobs and abusive work environments.
I've been in a job I don't enjoy, don't feel motivated by, and with a culture and management staff which is a total mismatch since January of 2020. I was placed there by an agency, and they were willing to place me elsewhere after seeing my written reports about the managerial abuse going on there. Then COVID happened. Then nothing. It has been an emotionally devastating grind, and given the fact that there are now little to no special benefits to be collected due to hardship from COVID, many people are now facing joblessness and homelessness if they don't stick to whatever gig they can get, no matter how bad it is. This is not a working system.
Should I quit my job after not being scheduled for two weeks?
For context, I’m 20 years old, in college, and am still living with my parents. I work at a chain tex mex restaurant where I mostly clean, nothing special. I had a fairly consistent schedule about a 4 weeks ago, working 3-5 days a week, however, I noticed my schedule changed drastically after one of my managers left the job, as she was moving away. One of my other managers, I’ll call him Juan, was promoted by my owner promptly after the previous manager left, meaning he had full control over schedules. Juan is also apparently the owners favorite manager, so you can see where the problem is coming in. 3 weeks ago, I was scheduled for literally one day. Come the following week, I was not scheduled at all. I called the restaurant and the owner picked up the phone, I told her that I was not scheduled and she then told me I was not the only one with no days during the week. She said she would speak with Juan the following day and see what’s up. I got no response and had to call again the following day and asked a coworker who answered if I could talk to Juan. It seemed like my manager was constantly trying to avoid conversation, as she kept telling me he was “busy”, despite her telling me that he wasn’t really doing anything important. I then went there in person and talked with Juan about why I was not scheduled, and his reasoning made little sense to me. He simply told me it was my “performance” and that he wanted to give other people a chance. When he elaborated, he said that sometimes I ask the manager on duty if I am ok to go when there are still things to clean. This didn’t make sense to me considering that one of the roles of a manager is to check if a station is clean before an employee leaves. We are required to tell the manager on duty if we can leave, and they let you know if you forgot to clean something. I asked him if there was a chance that I could get some hours if any opportunity came up and he just said that there was “little chance” of it. Just by his demeanor I could tell that he was lying. He had absolutely zero urgency when I was telling him how I felt like I was being neglected after only working one day the previous week, then getting absolutely nothing the following week. I then said that if I did not get scheduled next week, that I would quit. Lo and behold, I again got no schedule, and I’m contemplating just walking into the restaurant and telling a manager there that I quit. I honestly have no idea if Juan just doesn’t like me, or if his scheduling is just ass. I can’t tell the owner about what’s going on because I know she’ll be biased regarding him. I really don’t want to quit because the job is so convenient for me and the pay is ok, but I feel like my manager is just testing me after I threatened to quit. Is it normal for me to not be scheduled for two weeks straight? Should I just quit? What really makes me mad about all this is that I’m not the only one being effected by it. I feel like my manager just sorted through people he liked, gave them more hours, then just abandoned everyone else. It was hard for me just to get this job, so trying to find another one might be a pain in the ass. What should I do? Edit: Thanks everyone for the advice. I’ll see if I can file for unemployment within this week or two. Sucks that this had to happen but it is what is. Thanks again!
After 132 applications, I accepted a full-time job with benefits!
Hi r/Jobs! I wanted to share my timeline and interview stats. I found these kinds of posts to be interesting during my search, so I hope this helps someone! **Total job applications**: 132 **Total responses**: 40 **Never heard back**: 92 **Told me no right away**: 13 **Turned out to be a scam**: 6 **First interviews**: 11 **2+ interviews**: 5 **They offered me the job, but I declined**: 5 **They said no at end of interview process**: 4 **Left me hanging after two rounds**: 1 **Accepted**: 1 My background is in administration, teaching, and management, primarily in arts and entertainment. I applied heavily from late July 2020 to September 2020. At that point, I stopped actively applying because my old job called me back. Two jobs reached out to me in October, and I ended up taking one of them. --- **Resume** - I basically used [this template](https://old.reddit.com/r/jobs/comments/7y8k6p/im_an_exrecruiter_for_some_of_the_top_companies/), except I put education at the top. I had 8 slightly differing versions of my resume for the different kinds of jobs I was applying for. **Cover Letter** - I wish I could find the original author of the template I started with, but this ended up being my basic cover letter: *Dear Hiring Manager,* *I'm enthusiastically writing regarding the [POSITION] at [PLACE], which I discovered on [WEBSITE]. I have over [NUMBER] years of related experience and am excited to bring my creativity and energy to [PLACE].* *The job description mentioned that you were looking for [QUALITY, QUALITY, and QUALITY].* *As you can see from my resume, I’ve [DESCRIPTION OF JOB DUTIES THAT SHOWS I CAN DO QUALITY, QUALITY, and QUALITY]. I [DUTY, DUTY, ACCOMPLISHMENT].* *This multifaceted role has made me a [QUALITY, QUALITY], capable of [TASK].* *I’m confident that I have the skills and ability to be an asset to [PLACE]. Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to hearing from you.* *Sincerely,* *[YOUR NAME]* **Interview** - I obsessively honed my pitch and practiced with [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNSMPrvEWxo). **Websites** - I was looking primarily on Indeed and [NYFA](https://www.nyfa.org/jobs/), but sometimes Craigslist and LinkedIn, too. --- **Closing Thoughts** * *Personalize, personalize, personalize* - I really started getting somewhere when I started personalizing my resume for each job. Eventually, I had 8 slightly different versions of my resume ready to go, which I would personalize even more for each job. * *Including interests on your resume* - Yes, I started including interests on most of my resumes, and I started getting more interest. I kept it very brief and specific. My resume for the job I ultimately accepted, however, did not have any interests on it. As we all know, this is an incredibly tedious process. I certainly felt depressed and worthless at times. I just kept telling myself: this is a numbers game, and I just have to stay in the game to win. I saw every application as increasing my chances of winning the numbers game, even if only slightly. Additionally, I was very inspired by the folks on here who racked up 300 applications in the same time I had done 130. To everyone still applying: you got this! --- **EDIT 11/18/2020 11:00 AM EST - Thank you all for your kind well-wishes! I thought I'd compile my answers to the most frequently asked questions here:** **Are you entry level? How many jobs did you apply to per day and per week, on average?** - *tltr4560 (Thank you!)* Not entry level. I’m 28 with 4 years of experience in management. I applied to 5-7 jobs a day max, but sometimes I only managed to do 1 job a day. I was very slow because I was researching the companies, personalizing my resume and cover letter a lot, etc. **What kind of position did you end up in?** *- RogueMimzy (Thank you!)* I took an administrative position at a well-known organization, but not directly in my field. **What did you do to improve your interview skills?** *- kbflower (Thank you!)* The best interview advice I got was: peg your answers to your accomplishments, i.e., figure out what the most impressive things are about you and connect every interview answer to one or more of those. I really worked on this because I'm naturally not someone who brags about themselves. So, for example, if someone says, "Tell me about yourself," old me would have said, "I'm [NAME], I'm from Colorado and I teach painting." New me had a spiel: "I'm an artist, teacher, and manager. I started my interest in [FIELD] at [SCHOOL]. In my current position, I'm the manager at [PLACE], where I directly supervise 10 people. The studio makes an average revenue of $800,000 a year, and I've brought that up from $500,000 in 2017. I oversee all hiring, onboarding, and operational initiatives, while also teaching painting at [PLACE] to groups of up to 50 adults at a time." etc. Obviously those details are a little fudged but you get the idea. I practiced with my friends and with [the video I linked](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNSMPrvEWxo) until it was second nature. You don't want to memorize word for word, of course, but you want to know what points you're going to bring up every time. **Do you have any suggestions for the final rounds of interviews?** - *sassylilmidge (Thank you!)* I really can't call myself an expert on final rounds since I've only done it 5 times. These are my general thoughts, though: * **Anticipating common interview questions** - At the lower levels (where I am), there are only so many interview questions that get asked (even in the second and third rounds). I found [this free Balance Careers website](https://www.thebalancecareers.com/job-interview-questions-and-answers-2061204) very helpful for all of that. They have lists of common interview questions and suggestions for how to answer. I came up with my answers for pretty much all common interview questions and practiced them obsessively. * **Peg your answers to your accomplishments** - I wrote a little about that above. Basically, figure out what the most impressive things are about you and connect every interview answer to one or more of those. So if someone asked the classic, "How do you handle stress and pressure?" I had a semi-memorized answer ready to go that connected back to a striking, memorable accomplishment. E.g.: "In my current position, I run a lot of high-pressure, high-stress events. I remember one time, I was overseeing an event for the entire cast of the Lion King on Broadway and everything needed to be perfect. It turns out they needed a red carpet and a photo backdrop, but it seems like there was a miscommunication and the information didn't make it to us. So, my coworker and I sprang into action... [DETAILS] and, in the end, the night went off perfectly. No one even noticed a thing. I deal with challenging situations by leaping into action and doing everything I can in the here and now." I would be brief, but make the example as funny and vivid as possible. * **Get your most successful friend to critique your interviewing skills** (multiple times if possible) - This was painful, but helpful. I picked the most successful person I know and asked them to do several mock interviews with me. Most people will be flattered to be asked. **1) You want to practice until it's automatic.** In the first practice round, I would fall apart during basic questions out of nervousness (and because the situation was so weird). By the later rounds, I had a smooth, but natural (I hope) patter down. **2) Their feedback will be really important.** They might tell you you need to brag more, or say that one of your anecdotes is particularly interesting and you need to find a way to work it in earlier. **3) If possible, get them to practice with you the night/morning before interviews so you're not walking in completely cold.** Eventually I stopped relying on this, but I found it helpful for my first few 2+ round interviews. **Did you include personal hobby type interests or professional goals/interests?** - *Packynin (Thank you!)* Personal interests only. My exact line (when I included it) was: "**Interests** – Camping, hiking, bicycling, drawing, mycology." As a side note - I'm Asian, and we are sometimes stereotyped as being all the same, boring robot drones, etc. I felt like adding the interests might have humanized me to hiring managers. I didn't put any professional goals. I used to do some hiring and never found those sections that interesting. But it's probably different for other industries. **Would the template apply to a college student with no work or internship experience? All feedback I've gotten so far is that my experience is not relevant. Do my extracurriculars and projects hold any merit for anyone...?** *- beetles_juiced (Thank you!)* I'd need more details to give you good advice, but there's usually a way to spin your accomplishments in the best possible light. I interviewed for a lot of positions where I had no direct experience in that specific field. I usually read the job description, isolated the tasks that were most similar to things I had done, and then rewrote a few bullet points in my resume to directly address those tasks. So for example, if I saw a job description like this: *REQUIREMENTS: • Experience with social media, notably Instagram (all aspects: writing posts, promotion, documenting engagement with followers) • Proficiency in Microsoft Office and web research; and with Adobe Creative Suite is a plus. • Strong organizational, verbal, writing and problem-solving skills. • BA degree in Fine Art, Art History, or experience in a related field.* I would think to myself, okay: I don't have experience with Instagram, and web research isn't a huge part of my job. But I could spin my resume in the best possible light with something truthful and relevant, like this: * *Created original content for company social media accounts.* * *Researched market trends to support and develop new operational initiatives. Assisted senior management with status follow-ups and progress reports.* Maybe not the best example, but you get the idea. **Are you the white lady with curly hair in the image header?** No, that is a still from [the video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNSMPrvEWxo) I linked! I used that video to practice interviewing.
Why in God's Name Do I Need to Fill Out Past Employment, When my Resume is Attached?
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but: already employed, just thought I'd post this for some discussion. Because this is legitimately stupid. &#x200B; Genuinely, what the hell and why? You have my resume, which details, in-depth, my past work experience, alongside achievements, certifications, etc. Why the hell are you making me fill out that information AGAIN?! Sometimes it's not just one time, there have been certain employers who made me do it THREE TIMES! And let's not forget that some of them also make you fill out references, even though you already have your references assigned in another document that you attached with your resume. Seriously, are job applications doing this to be as inconvenient as possible to the end user or are most of these websites just shoddily designed? What is the actual reasoning for wasting my damn time?
Had an uncomfortable interview this week with a rude interviewer. Feel free to share your frustrations here too
It was a final-stage interview. Dude was late, which I was totally fine with given that he had a tight schedule. The interview started off very weirdly. I could tell that he seemed irritated and uninterested. I got flashbacks from the interview with my ex-company, which I had left due to the insane hours and mismanagement. I had a similar interviewer with a nasty attitude, tells you a lot about the culture. Anyway, back to this guy. He needed to know all my schooling history, from elementary up to university. I even had to explain why my grades had fallen. (I admit, I should have considered withdrawing from the interview at this point) But I foolishly continued entertaining the dude. He even got as far as to push me to explain specifically what "health issue" I had encountered. The interviewers I came across usually tip-toe around this question as they understood that medical history is one's privacy. Yeah, I suffered from depression. I understand if he thinks that my personality would not fit the team and the "fast-paced work environment", but at least send the message across with some manners. Idk. At one point I started to understand that this interviewer in front of me hated his life. He complained about the work-life but always wrapped up his mini vent sessions with an optimistic note. People with a horrible work life usually try to justify those hours by thinking they are doing it for growth and a greater good. Everyone has their own beliefs, and I admire the resilience of those who can survive overtime. But I also know that it is not for me. Well, looks like I have to go back to the job search. Tbh I am burning out a little from months of applications, assessments, interviews and rejections. I went through one screening and another 1-hour case study to reach this final stage and I got treated like crap. In the end, the interviewer apologized for being late. Totally missed the point. I don't care that you were running late or something. Please, treat other human beings decently. It will affect your company's image. Sorry, just needed to vent. Edit: I did not expect the number of responses... and thanks for the awards T\^T I can't reply to every comment but I read them all. For the jobseekers, let's hang in there, a better opportunity will come by. (Sometimes I think I still have to improve my mental resilience. I usually try to understand that maybe the interviewer just had a bad day (like my ex-boss), but interrogating about health and irrelevant grades were simply a no-no.) Thanks again for those who left informative and reassuring comments or are kind enough to share their stories, it really made my day. I didn't sleep much last night as I was crying lmao. Much love <3
Don't be afraid to fight for yourself, and know your worth
Backstory: A couple of months ago I was offered a job (just as everything was closed down due to covid) after mulling it over and talking to some friends/colleagues it became clear they were gouging my starting wage. I asked if they would be open to negotiate and they said that the starting wage was standard for their new hires (colleagues who worked for the company indicated otherwise). At this point I was a bit miffed and sent them a professional yet piquant email informing them I didn't think we were a fit at the time and that I wished them luck in find someone appropriate for the wages offered; additionally I attached my resume that I used to apply to their job. Today I got offered a fair wage for my experience. Don't be afraid to walk away from a job offer if you know they're taking advantage of you, chances are they're going to keep taking advantage of you as an employee.